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I have some on the beater, and i think they are fine for casual riding around town, butwould always go clipless for proper ridingg
It makes a big differance what pedal they are on - if as radicalrik says you combine them with a DX or similar then they give you a serious amount of grip, easily comparable to Clips, as long as they are adjusted properly - if you fit them to a less grippy pedal you can realy feel the differance