What to do in the case of an accident (discussion)

Just as an aside to the above, you should use the Data Protection Act rather than the Freedom of Information Act to apply for CCTV footage. You should make a data subject access request under Section 7(1) of the DPA.

The Information Commissioner's Office provide a template for requests. The CCTV Code of Practice outlines an organisation's responsibilities for disclosure in section 19.2 (page 15).

Also, you should use the Data Protection Act (not the Freedom of Information Act which does not apply) to access case details from the police. However, the police can withhold information in certain circumstances.

HTH.

is it true that a "sorry" from a driver can be seen as an admission of their guilt?

It could be but it is not conclusive. It is best never to apologise or if you do, ensure that the apology is clearly a politeness such as "I am sorry that I hit you but I had no alternative as you stepped out in front of me without warning". It is not a bad idea to extract an apology from the other party as one can then seek to use it but don't be too transparent. If they do apologise, remember the exact words that they used, note them down as quickly as possible afterwards. Respond in a way that they and witnesses will also remember.

good info I hope it dosent come in handy.

Attempted Murder: 4 times tonight a silver/grey car, single white male, Y508 YBH tried to kill me.

There were words exchanged the first time and I thought all was done. At Hanger Lane, the driver attempted to knock me down by driving across my path. I swerved to the right to avoid him. He then swerved right and he hit me with his wing mirror and then sped around Hanger lane, heading south. I thought he'd had enough but he came back for more, attempting to hit me in Ealing on Uxbridge Rd. before turning another corner and "leaving". Again, I thought I was safe from this crazy...

In West Ealing, I heard a revving engine and turned around to see this guy coming at me again, at speed. I saw a ramp up the curb and mounted it. This friggin' crazy, followed me up the curb, at speed! He hit the curb, trying to hit me and since he missed the nice ramp bit, I guess he hit the hard edge of the curb and blew his front left tyre. He then drove one. I crossed the rode, saying something like "fucking nutter" to a guy walking down the street, turned my lights off and took a nice, secluded way home.

This driver is a psycho. Beware.

I have phoned the police but they say I need to report it to a station. They said they would keep an eye out for the guy. I suggested you do too.. if you are anywhere near Ealing.

May his body rot rapidly from the inside and his children cave his face in with d-locks..

Thanks man, thought it might have been a Jag. I've got to get to the cop shop..

Fuck! Serious best of luck with this hippy, let us know how you get on with feedback/repercussions/cops/vigilante/whatever. Such a tosser needs to learn a lesson that using your fucking car as a weapon is the small-dicked coward's method. What a wanker.

Attempted Murder: 4 times tonight a silver/grey car, single white male, Y508 YBH tried to kill me.

There were words exchanged the first time and I thought all was done. At Hanger Lane, the driver attempted to knock me down by driving across my path. I swerved to the right to avoid him. He then swerved right and he hit me with his wing mirror and then sped around Hanger lane, heading south. I thought he'd had enough but he came back for more, attempting to hit me in Ealing on Uxbridge Rd. before turning another corner and "leaving". Again, I thought I was safe from this crazy...

In West Ealing, I heard a revving engine and turned around to see this guy coming at me again, at speed. I saw a ramp up the curb and mounted it. This friggin' crazy, followed me up the curb, at speed! He hit the curb, trying to hit me and since he missed the nice ramp bit, I guess he hit the hard edge of the curb and blew his front left tyre. He then drove one. I crossed the rode, saying something like "fucking nutter" to a guy walking down the street, turned my lights off and took a nice, secluded way home.

This driver is a psycho. Beware.

I have phoned the police but they say I need to report it to a station. They said they would keep an eye out for the guy. I suggested you do too.. if you are anywhere near Ealing.

May his body rot rapidly from the inside and his children cave his face in with d-locks..

wasnt a young(ish) guy silver Golf by anychance?

opps sorry didnt see car type further down ...anyway hope they get the fecker for ya m8

Very similar to this..

I'm going to go down to where he drove up the footpath to get me and see if there's any marks for happy snapping.. then I'll pop into the cop shop.

I know that any mention of the CTC is likely to conjure up images of beards and panniers but I would recommend this section of the website of the solicitors who run the CTC protection scheme. Some sound advice here on what to do in the event of an accident.

FYI, Russell Jones & Walker are a well established law firm who made their reputation in acting for Trades Unions and in particular in acting for members of Trades Unions in work-related personal injury actions. They are one of the best plaintiff personal injury forms around. Yes, I am a solicitor but no, I have no connection whatsoever with them.

http://www.rjw.co.uk/ctc

I've been in the cop shop for an hour and there's still ppl in front of me and no coppers. Fucktoss!

what that guy is still at large! I'm taking the tube the rest of the week...

I got a form to fill out.. backdated.. the cops like me.

I'm still going to track him down and rape his face with a broken beer bottle..

Every time I see a silver/grey car I think I'm about to get twatted. Someone needs to die for this.

I got a form to fill out.. backdated.. the cops like me.

I'm still going to track him down and rape his face with a broken beer bottle..

Every time I see a silver/grey car I think I'm about to get twatted. Someone needs to die for this.

That's feckin terrible. Sorry to hear, but glad you're alright!

I got a form to fill out.. backdated.. the cops like me.

I'm still going to track him down and rape his face with a broken beer bottle..

Every time I see a silver/grey car I think I'm about to get twatted. Someone needs to die for this.

So can we get this guy's name and address and post it here?

We could but since I'm 'officially' reporting him to the cops, for now, I'm being nice.

Please only put helpful legal info on this thread, just so we can keep it on track. While stories are super important and good to learn from I think they're best in other threads. Let's keep this one really easy to glean info from quickly.

Can anyone recommend a good place for getting a post-accident bike checked out? Front wheel is clearly knackered, but I need to work out if the hub is damaged or just the rim, and of course get my frame looked at (for all the physicists out there, CAN you dent a Charge Plug, or does that only work in a black hole or something?)

Following on from the comments about back "drive-train" brakes, I think they're catching on - either the ambulance fella or policeman (was concussed, not really sure which) asked if I only had a front brake, but before I could answer corrected himself saying "oh no, it's fixed at the back isn't it."

Hmm that registration comes back on ASKMID as NOT insured. not surprising really.

DVLA check comes back as a Silver 2001 2.5 litre petrol Jaguar (which probably means it will be an X-Type as in Hippy's picture, but it could be an S type) with current tax until April 2009 (which may mean the DVLA have a record of the current owner, but it may have been taxed by a previous one).

Can anyone recommend a good place for getting a post-accident bike checked out? Front wheel is clearly knackered, but I need to work out if the hub is damaged or just the rim, and of course get my frame looked at (for all the physicists out there, CAN you dent a Charge Plug, or does that only work in a black hole or something?)

Following on from the comments about back "drive-train" brakes, I think they're catching on - either the ambulance fella or policeman (was concussed, not really sure which) asked if I only had a front brake, but before I could answer corrected himself saying "oh no, it's fixed at the back isn't it."

Condor will probably be good to you. I would call around and ask bike shop's if their mechanic is qualified and whether he would write you a letter stating what's wrong with the bike. Perhaps they'll do this for a fee like a garage will for your car.
Actually you could mention that you are going to report back here and let others know. You might get further.

It's good to hear that about the cop understanding fixed.

last night bumps :(

so far ive done well by your posts, but i still wish that we could have retained a cop (or three) at the scene to aid the whole "i just got taken out in a bad way" thing.

just stripped the frame, and its definitely tweaked (and yes, its the down tube)- ride it straight and either you go in circles, or you look like dogs when they run in that funny sidways angle. that makes front wheel, fork, frame and seat. yay.

I was speaking to an officer about general protocol and he said if you get hit and just your bike is damaged then get details off the driver etc but dont call 999 instead report it.
However if the driver refuses to give you details, you can call the police straight away. Furthermore if you are knocked off and injured then you should call the police immediately as well

Thanks for the advice. Super important to know what to do.

I know that any mention of the CTC is likely to conjure up images of beards and panniers but I would recommend this section of the website of the solicitors who run the CTC protection scheme. Some sound advice here on what to do in the event of an accident.

FYI, Russell Jones & Walker are a well established law firm who made their reputation in acting for Trades Unions and in particular in acting for members of Trades Unions in work-related personal injury actions. They are one of the best plaintiff personal injury forms around. Yes, I am a solicitor but no, I have no connection whatsoever with them.

http://www.rjw.co.uk/ctc

+1 for RJW. I was referred to them by the London Cycle Campaign for an incident a few years ago, they were excellent.

As for brakes, yes a fixed wheel is legally recognised as a brake. BUT, you need two independent brakes for your bike to be considered 'safe'. So riding a 'brakeless' fixed won't cut it, nor will riding a singlespeed without front and rear wheel brakes.