Think I want a touring bike?

then what is the airspeed velocity of a laden bob jackson?

Ahh I used to lust after a Sutra but got a Smoke instead, I just didn't have the extra £600 at the time.

the newer Sutra even have the proper gear for touring;

love the new rear rack with the low mounting points, though not as nice as Hassan's.... (is that a tubus?).