There goes civilisation...

yes - therein lies the contradiction - so agreed. damned if you do, etc... the endless paradoxes of advanced capitalism. we're defeated before we even set out the door.

have you read a book called "a very british coup" ? it's a good, albeit fictional, insight into how things work/would work in the event of a genuine socialist government getting elected.

unless the media, the banks, the lords, the royal family, the high-level civil service, the treasury, the military , secret service and the US govt. are also socialists, it gets nipped in the bud pretty quick.