Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

the juicy facts included a "substantial" increase in bicycles sales in the last few weeks.
I don't want to know about facts, I want to know what people reckon.

(Apologies to Mitchell and Webb).

Jesus wept. Anyone put the word Rapha in a thread title and it goes on for days.

If the worst reaction to elicit is indifference, then Rapha are doing a lot right.

you got it.

someone made a thread about "Rapha Nocturne, salford" when in actual fact, The SALFORD Nocturne was an event in which Rapha just happened to be a sponsor.

They seem to punch above their weight when it comes to marketing presence.

Apparently loads.

BBC News mentioned as an aside in tonight's news that bicycles sales since the Olympics have seen a dramatic increase. The new feature was discussing the sacking of the guy in charge of athletics, and the comparison was to the success in cycling and the juicy facts included a "substantial" increase in bicycles sales in the last few weeks.

Awesome! But a bike's for life not just for the Olympics.
And cycling has been up "dramatically" for years. But I am not poo-pooing, let's hope Hoy & Wiggins bring on the commuters!!

And now I must stop. I'm out of this thread but have enjoyed it immensely.

And now I must stop. I'm out of this thread but have enjoyed it immensely. Now all I can do is sit and wait for Rapha to crack on with producing their Rapha-elle range, cos I'm going to be at the front of the queue for skinny-fit merino tees; hair scrunchies made from panda baby intestines for the ultimate in natural elasticity; and the Rapha compact - not a chainset, but a make-up compact with a mirror made of glass consisting of sand particles from the beach in cycling's famous Nice; and the Nicole Cooker for the queen of the kitchen who likes nothing better than to provide sustenance for her king of the mountain.

Sell-out ;)

any more gold, Bring, and you'll become Bobby George..

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-rep + reported

I just -repped and reported myself while you were at it.

I'm going to have a piss, then go to bed.

neg repp'd the both of yuz. Edit freaks.

(not really - go on, stay at the top, I know it makes you happy)

I'm going to go to bed, and then have a piss.

the athletics heads contract was to expire early next year and the guy who tthey originally wanted for the job has become available. plus the fact athletics recieves £25.6 mill in lottery funding and only got 4 medals :(

A bit late in the thread, but I am wondering about what you guys think are ethical choices for cycling products? And wether I made the right choices?

I bought my Lemond from Brixton Cycles. Someone told me they operate as a cooperative or something? Also bought stuff from howies, who seem to carry an ethical flag?

I find making consumer choices really difficult, and try to opt for the less evil shops, like John Lewis for electronics and so on. But I am fully aware that in a world where companies are owned by other companies, and where organic wool is transported via plane from down under to UK, my choices are not perfect most on the time.

that is a very interesting question how would one even find out if a wholesaler or retailer is 'ethical' and how do you judge? and by what criteria ? do any parts manufacturers or retailers flaught there ethical point of view?

that is a very interesting question how would one even find out if a wholesaler or retailer is 'ethical' and how do you judge? and by what criteria ? do any parts manufacturers or retailers flaught there ethical point of view?

Organic denim is my current favorite in this category. Yes the cotton may be the most ethically and environmentally correct produced fiber. And it may have been spun by angels. But as soon as you start using indigo dyes, whatever good you've done is straight out of the window. And for all this you get the privilege of paying more.

archi, i seem to remember that for something to be labelled "organic cotton" the dyes used have to be organic, as well.

archi, i seem to remember that for something to be labelled "organic cotton" the dyes used have to be organic, as well.

Not always. Some brands, e.g. Nudie get it right. Others tend to follow this route:

**Pick Your Cotton Carefully **
Although cotton is considered a natural fiber, conventional varieties are anything but natural. Ten percent of all agricultural chemicals and 25 percent of insecticides in the U.S. are used to grow cotton. Seven of the 15 pesticides used on cotton are considered to be “possible,” “likely,” “probable,” or “known” human carcinogens, according to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency.
Luckily, organic cotton is becoming easier to find, and in nicer designs and a wider range of clothing for both children and adults. However, that very popularity means that some bogus product will make it to market. *And although the cotton may be organic, the garment made from it may be full of processing chemicals and metal-laden dyes. *

Taken from this website

http://www.organicdenim.com/

Am I naive in thinking that buying second handd is about as ethical as it get's?

no, freecycle is about as ethical as it gets

£35?

aww... :( nevermind... i missed that one.

different "faults" in the shorts = different sale prices. If they are simply used in a photo shoot there's nothing wrong with them so price is higher?? I dont know that that was the case with your shorts or not but that is what I would guess.

http://www.howies.co.uk/content.php?xId=443&xPg=1

"So because it dispels odour and dirt, you don’t have to wash it as often. Which is good news when you realise that 80% of the environmental impact of a garment is caused by washing it."

I guess if things get picked for second hand usage it depends how much transport and washing is done to get it into a sellable state again? But I cannot imagine it to be less ethical than new stuff, tbh.

no, freecycle is about as ethical as it gets

Close.

Not consuming is where it's at.

I think MrSmith said it earlier in the thread... if you're truly serious about limiting your footprint on this plant, cut to the chase and kill yourself. Anything less than that is selfish to some degree, so really the point is that no-one living is really doing everything possible to limit the impact of their existence. So that leaves every single person grappling with ethical debates about where the line is acceptable (to them) between damaging the world by living, and actually living a comfortable lifestyle (you can hurt the world less by not requiring a house to live in).

which brings us right back to the idea of priorities.
Our No. 1 priority is the survival human race, is that not our true calling? And doing so in a sustainable fashion is the responsible thing to do.

Do as much as you can manage each day, short of killing yourself I mean.