Rapha, nice but a bit pricey?

Good point. But doesn't the sponsorship that they are putting in go some way to making up for the company's comparative youth? After all, we all have to start somewhere...

yeah, i think it does, as I said in my first post as counterpoint to my general negativity. I really like to follow these sort of companies as they seem to do a lot of things well and i find it interesting. Howies is another one that I watched closely. Maybe I'm just bitter Because I'll be a poor student for the foreseeable future. Even if I was minted though I would still be wound up by the haughty marketing.