Troubles with Old Bills

Luckily it was a quiet day for the police with only four people being stabbed to death in London. Gave them the opportunity and resources to crack down on real crime like cycling without lights.

You make a good point (perhaps not deliberately) - but maybe the police are looking for reasons to stop and search people to try and get on top of the knife problem ?

dimi3 how old are you ? I reckon 16-25 might put you into the target market.

You make a good point (perhaps not deliberately) - but maybe the police are looking for reasons to stop and search people to try and get on top of the knife problem ?

dimi3 how old are you ? I reckon 16-25 might put you into the target market.

actually I am 28, but look like 23 or so...

Luckily it was a quiet day for the police with only four people being stabbed to death in London. Gave them the opportunity and resources to crack down on real crime like cycling without lights.

Don't forget the important crime of being black and driving..:)

You make a good point (perhaps not deliberately)

I would never make a good point deliberately.

Being the wrong side of 50, am I able to ride secure in the knowledge that I am unlikely to be stopped, searched and charged with possession of an Allen key?

I would never make a good point deliberately.

Being the wrong side of 50, am I able to ride secure in the knowledge that I am unlikely to be stopped, searched and charged with possession of an Allen key?

I know a couple of 50 year olds who are pretty handy with an Allen key (imperial of course).

actually I am 28, but look like 23 or so...

Were you tooled up ? ;P

Were you tooled up ? ;P

yeah, I had my hacksaw, poison darts, samurai sword, shurikens etc etc on standby, but they handcuffed me :(

yeah, I had my hacksaw, poison darts, samurai sword, shurikens etc etc on standby, but they handcuffed me :(

Was this you ?

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Was this you ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEXe6mvlx8A

were you filming me? :

were you filming me? :

Consider these two things:

They say you are never more than 6 foot from a rat in any of Britain cities.

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I am a master of disguise.

Where did the guy think he was going to go once he'd stabbed the copper?

actually I am 28, but look like 23 or so...

Are you black?

Are you black?

negative

I'm 41 but look 29...

oh dear. There are good police and bad police.
I find being exhaustingly nice to them helps a great deal [when cornered by them], they love to be respected.

However this treatment seems a bit harsh.
Shrug it off, most police in my experience are NOT like that!
In fact in most cases they have actually been good to me.
So, don't take this experience as a reflection on the whole system.
Taking a bad attitude towards the bill is worse in the long term.

Where did the guy think he was going to go once he'd stabbed the copper?

Yeah !?

It's a great video, it shows the other side, it shows all the real crap the police have to deal with every day and how well they handle it. It shows how well they deal with the serious stuff.

But that bloke is breathlessly stupid, so he stabs (and presumably injures or kills) the policeman, what does he do then, stab each and every police man that comes at him, then using his master criminal skills pick the fortified lock on the door and then walk past desk officers he was dragged past going the other way 5 minutes ago ?

Was this you ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEXe6mvlx8A

He was treated remarkably well there. I would assume he was giving his kicking once he was out of the way of the cameras?

oh dear. There are good police and bad police.
I find being exhaustingly nice to them helps a great deal [when cornered by them], they love to be respected.

I agree, either ignore the police and calmly, and without increasing speed or making it obvious that you have seen them, disappear up a side street (but don't obviously flee when the police are right in front of you) claiming you had not seen them if whatever they think you have done is worth them chasing after you- or do the very opposite and be very compliant and look terribly sorry for whatever it is you were meant to have done, that can usually be enough to satisfy their needs.

I can honestly say that when I am out and about on my bike, I am more wary of the police than I am of being being a victim of crime, I realise the police are more likely to just treat you like shit, detain you against your will, maybe fine you and at worst arrest you while the bloke who mugs you might have a knife - but (as misplaced and stupid as it sounds) it is the police I feel more threatened by.

He was treated remarkably well there. I would assume he was giving his kicking once he was out of the way of the cameras?

Got to give the police their credit here, if that was me in the room with Mr Stabby I would have missing fingers and a few holes in me by now, the policeman was on top of the situation in around a fifth of a second !! (5 frames at UK PAL/25 frames per second).

Skill !

Info here on how to make complaints about the police
http://www.ipcc.gov.uk/
http://www.thesite.org/homelawandmoney/law/introuble/complainaboutpolice
Report it to your local cyclists group etc..

some interesting information here
http://www.ralphsmyth.me.uk/citycyclists/policeclampdown.html

What would the complaint be exactly though? I don't think you'd have much of a case for any kind of formal complaint. As much as it may suck. Police will just say they were doing their job.

Was this you ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEXe6mvlx8A

Holy shit, thats nuts!

good to see that the brains of britain are still out there doing stupid things everyday.

most important peice of advice. never and i mean never attack a police officer.
a very silly person did it at a shop over the road from me. every copper in a 5 mile radius turned up included 2 riot vans and the cheif inspector. that was a fun night the whole steet was out in force.

good to see that the brains of britain are still out there doing stupid things everyday.

most important peice of advice. never and i mean never attack a police officer.
a very silly person did it at a shop over the road from me. every copper in a 5 mile radius turned up included 2 riot vans and the cheif inspector. that was a fun night the whole steet was out in force.

thats a perfect time to go riding then.

I work shifts;use a large Chrome messenger bag and often get pulled by the law late at night;i don't jump traffic lights;use lights and use my "own" bike.
Its "reassuring to know they're doing their job"..........

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