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XACD is where setavento got theirs made, and pipedream/dialled bikes and i think people like cotic and maybe even charge?
not that cheap either to be honest, similar price to the burls, i have a few freinds who have gone direct and savd but spent a huge amount of time back and forth and trying to get over the language barrier.
there arent 'that' many ti factorys over there, they all just have different names and work out the same building