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• #127
Why would you get arrested over thermite? I remember thermite reactions being shown in secondary school science lessons. Huge 2/3 litre beakers of it, too.
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• #128
You want a thermic lance, get through D-locks (and phone box coin boxes) in no time.
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• #130
There's a bike outside my office, a step-through girls Peugeot; no front wheel, brakes hanging off, no lock - is it fair game?
What do you lot think?
Would be good for the missus after a spray and with my old front wheel.
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• #131
how long has it been there ?
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• #132
Saw it today for the first time, don't normally go that way though. It's just sitting in the middle of the pavement.
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• #133
what colour are you gonna spray your missus ;)
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• #134
A light tan.
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• #135
it's only fair game if it's been in a stream to remove all trace evidence. oh and it needs to have vast amounts of rust on it even if it's aluminium otherwise you might contract chavscumitus from any remaining burberry bacteria left by the moron who stole the bits in the first place(easily spotted to the naked eye by the pattern of mold it produces) you really need to be careful in this situation. may i suggest a disguise of some sort prior to going near it. :)
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• #136
Is there a way to report it to the police? If they can't find the owner (unlikely they're even looking for a 20 year old ladies Peugeot) then you can have it after a certain number of months?
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• #137
if you can get it free and take it to your local bob shop then yes. i think it's three months if no-one has collected then you can have it. although that may have doubled if they decide it may be a terrorist bike. some places will turn this round in a month but you have to keep it for 1 year just incase the owner comes in and asks about it.
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• #138
No problem getting it free - it's not locked. So, I just take it to a bike shop to report it? Do they phone the police, then?
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• #139
What if the bike is clearly abandoned (rear wheel gone, stays twisted, chain orange with rust), but it's firmly locked to a railing on a pavement? What are the ethics of removing the nice vintage lugged top bolt stem from it? (rest of the bike is shite).
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• #140
No problem getting it free - it's not locked. So, I just take it to a bike shop to report it? Do they phone the police, then?
sorry i have used the wrong slang term for you southerners my bad. local police station mate not bike shop.
called bob shop as in bobby for a police man and shop as in station my fault.
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• #141
Finders keepers or a treat from the street I say ;)
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• #142
erm i have no ethics on stolen and destroyed stuff. having stripped a frame found in a stream for parts a few weeks back. it had no wheels and had been there for some time. the frame was rubbish (well a saracen so as good as) but some of the parts were ok. it got a viking send of to by being placed back in the stream as a very striped frame.
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• #143
erm i have no ethics on stolen and destroyed stuff. having stripped a frame found in a stream for parts a few weeks back. it had no wheels and had been there for some time. the frame was rubbish (well a saracen so as good as) but some of the parts were ok. it got a viking send of to by being placed back in the stream as a very striped frame.
wouldn't it be better to take it to the dump rather than leave it in a stream?
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• #144
no. i was on a bike i couldn't carry it. i placed it in a location for the park warden to find it and remove rather than it being beaten by the chav's and causing more damage to the local area with bits of it. oh and it was picked up by a warden a few days later after me having a word with one on my way past later in the week. turns out they get alot of bits of random metal dumped and they now save it then weigh it in to help pay for the park.
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• #145
There is a process for taking ownership of an abandoned vehicle. A friend of mine noticed that a motorbike on his street hadn't moved for months. No-one seemed to know who's it was, so he reported it to the police, filled out some forms, and after a further period of time it became his, free & legal. Did it up. Rode it for a couple of years then sold it for decent wedge.
Don't know if similar applies to bicycles, but i'd guess asking the cops would be a good first step.
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• #146
There is a process for taking ownership of an abandoned vehicle. A friend of mine noticed that a motorbike on his street hadn't moved for months. No-one seemed to know who's it was, so he reported it to the police, filled out some forms, and after a further period of time it became his, free & legal. Did it up. Rode it for a couple of years then sold it for decent wedge.
Don't know if similar applies to bicycles, but i'd guess asking the cops would be a good first step.
The police have a rule of not doing any work regarding bicycle thefts.
If you hand it in it will stay in a warehouse for a couple years then be sold at a local auction house, bumblebeeauctions website or in rare cases donated to a local community project.
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• #147
There is a process for taking ownership of an abandoned vehicle. A friend of mine noticed that a motorbike on his street hadn't moved for months. No-one seemed to know who's it was, so he reported it to the police, filled out some forms, and after a further period of time it became his, free & legal. Did it up. Rode it for a couple of years then sold it for decent wedge.
Don't know if similar applies to bicycles, but i'd guess asking the cops would be a good first step.
because in the police's eyes a bike is not a vehicle it will go via the lost or stolen property channel so it's 3 months in the slammer for the bike then away you go. unless the bike is a very nice peice of metal most owners won't care and won't bother to go to the police and ask about it.
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• #148
There's a bike outside my office, a step-through girls Peugeot; no front wheel, brakes hanging off, no lock - is it fair game?
What do you lot think?
Would be good for the missus after a spray and with my old front wheel.
take it. give it a new life.
What if the bike is clearly abandoned (rear wheel gone, stays twisted, chain orange with rust), but it's firmly locked to a railing on a pavement? What are the ethics of removing the nice vintage lugged top bolt stem from it? (rest of the bike is shite).
take it , give it a new life.
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• #149
Here's an email I got from the cops about abandoned bikes:
*Dear Dan,
Whilst I appreciate your sentiments regarding unattended bikes in bike racks I am afraid that the Metropolitan Police Service is unable to give you permission to remove any of these.
For your information to be accused of stealing the property must have an owner. This is not only in law but also logically because if it does not have an owner then it is highly doubtful that anyone would inform us that the bike has gone and thus make an allegation of theft.
As regards to a removal policy I can only assume that the Local Authority are responsible for the removal of bikes in a similar way they are to cars so if you give them a ring they may be able to assist.
Hope this helps
Alan Draper
Inspector - Westminster North OCU*When he says it needs to have an owner in order to be stolen, he's basically saying that no-one will give a toss if you take an abandoned bike. Think of it this way: if you cleared a dumped fridge off the street, it would be regarded as a public service
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• #150
Funny that this thread came up - some may remember that a few months ago I 'reclaimed' an old small Raleigh from the back of my office, well, another bike appeared a few weeks ago, and shows no sign of being claimed. Like the last one, it's not even locked up - it has cable locks around the seatpost but it's not locked to the bike rack.
It's a Peugeot, looks like a mountain bike/hybrid. Not Reynolds tubing from the looks of things, but I am tempted to do a balaclava job on it if it's still there next week.
Anyone interested?
i recognise that bike PJ! it was locked to the rails near Tas Firrin (that okabashi joint) on bethnal green road? that's my bike!
i jest. my girl and me were talking over this subject and about that bike, when we noticed one day all that was left was the back wheel D-locked to the rails. ha!
it was fair game, seemed to be completely abandoned to me. if that's outside your house, me and the lady live 50m away from you. i'll mentally note not to leave our bikes locked up out front. :D