What is the best lock?

ANY lock no matter how thick heavy and strong, melts away like butter under a blowtorch. That is the kind of lengths organised bike thieves go to, taking vanfuls of bikes.

Ha, along with the bike, surely?

Ha, along with the bike, surely?

not at all, you can be very precise with a blowtorch. And you just carry around a piece of stone etc to use as a shield.

I think everyone here realises that if someone wants yoru bike they will have it, often it means cutting the railing etc you locked it too. Thieves are ridiculous, theyll risk getting caught, beaten up, police etc and then usually sell the bike for £15

not at all, you can be very precise with a blowtorch. And you just carry around a piece of stone etc to use as a shield.

how much skill would you need to able to use the blowtorch safety?

new lock arrived yesterday, wow what a difference, i used to think my old chain was quite thick

thats outrageous.

how much skill would you need to able to use the blowtorch safety?

Hardly any. Protect the bike with a piece of Asbestos (found in most ironing boards) then just blast the shit out of the lock with the blowtorch till it cuts through, no need to be neat.

Although by Blowtorch you'd need something fairly big with an external gastank (oxyacetylene). Those hand held gas canaster things just wouldn't do it (although they're fine for fitting copper pipes and stuff). But then if you have a van to stick the bikes in you could just leave the tanks in there and run the tubes and gun out to the bit you want to cut.

Which with all the equipment, you're better off stealing a motorbike than a bike?

Massive lock for the win

Can you imagine someone wheeling a massive oxyacetaline kit down the road just to nick a bike?
thats rediculous...
you may aswell wheel it round to tiffany and nick something worth the effort.

Several fire stations have had hydraulic "jaws of life" stolen. these get used by bike thiefs. Porta pac oxy acetylene kits like the ones used by roofers and air conditioning engineers are small and easy to move.

Massive lock for the win

ahaha

Can you imagine someone wheeling a massive oxyacetaline kit down the road just to nick a bike?
thats rediculous...
you may aswell wheel it round to tiffany and nick something worth the effort.

them kind of people drive around nicking anything and everything.
they DO carry around oxyacteylene tanks in the back of a van.

Go around stealing motorbikes, scooters, bicycles, construction equipment, pieces of street furniture (for the steel). Ive seen it with myself, and I dont even live in london.

D_locks are just a different thing from chopping go to poping it open or ... the carbide thing YouTube - Carbide cuts Kryptonite Lock

so best strategy is to have both types of locks, chain and D-lock as they seem to have different needs for opening equipment (as sheldon brown says for years now) well and it dam' makes sense to me, too.

I have this:

16mm thick case-hardened chain and a humungous lock of the sort usually seen on shipping containers full of tellies and the like. I cannot begin to describe how heavy it is though.

I'd get an Almax if I was going to spend some serious money on a lock. I'd rather just ride less nickable bike though.

D_locks are just a different thing from chopping go to poping it open or ... the carbide thing YouTube - Carbide cuts Kryptonite Lock

so best strategy is to have both types of locks, chain and D-lock as they seem to have different needs for opening equipment (as sheldon brown says for years now) well and it dam' makes sense to me, too.

it's varies from what D-lock you have really, some of them can be cut easily, some don't, when my old Evo Mini broke, I end up having to hacksaw it off, took me 30 minutes.

Best chains and padlocks for bike use are probably from here at the moment: http://www.torc-anchors.com/

I really do need to order one... just wish they did the chain in a 1m length as that would be a better fit than 0.8m around my waist (esp in winter with a jersey, waterporoof, etc).

din't these motorcycle people chewed an almax during their >>100quit chain vs. boltcutter rampage?
... in less than 2min or so? that video came up here in the forum 'bout chains.

@ adamM: thanks so much, that is a goooood place to by a chain thicker than the kryp_fughs and reasonable priced. *highfive

reeen, 16mm circumference is the measurement of the best chains, but look here for more options.

Keep in mind though, that 16mm chains can be heavier than 16mm/18mm U-Locks.

... my ideal combination? the Kryptonite Evolution Mini and Fahgettaboutit Mini, the Evolution Mini for locking bike in board daylight/under 1 hour, the Fah for dusk/over 1 hours.... Evo Mini to lock front wheel, and Fah to lock frame and rear wheel to whatever thing that's sticking out of the ground ...

Bought a Kryptonite Evo Mini just now. After edscoble's persistent advice.

From before I've got the big Fahgettaboudit chain and padlock. Bought it in an emotional moment after a bike I had got stolen. Lock is worth probably double of the bike in question though.

Passing this on..........

Edscoble now says "Touch your toes"

Edscoble now says "Sniff your feet"

We await the next installment.

What about the onguard lock? One of them is just a bit longer (178 mm) and much cheaper than a krypto mini : https://shop.sunrisecyclery.com/item/12009/

thanx GA2G, well i am looking out for one of those 13mm chains actually, specially the prices with lock in combo seem so much more my lane than a weeker kryp_fugh for way over 100quit. my bike is not that valuable, though customized with love and time, it makes me want a good chain/lock to keep it.
i now have this http://www.bikesyoulike.co.uk/product/555/Kryptonite_Kryptochain_And_Padlock and am very much nervous to leave it. ...and it doesn't fit my waist nor frame+rear wheel+normal light post bottom diameter at the same stime.

Watch this:

http://www.almax-security-chains.co.uk/index.asp?pg=19

Not suitable for carrying around, thouh. Just to be stored at work or somewhere.