Someone should teach hipster fixie riders

that there is a difference between a track frame and a road conversion/single speed frame.

i'm sick of looking around on ebay and such and seeing "track frame" only to see the lax geometry and all sorts of braze ons.

fuck! if you're going to jump into something, you'd think they'd know a thing or two about it.

i just want a sweet little track bike for the drome.

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6ppd?

IMO track frames in their advanced state are not that suitable for road use. Reason, very stiff, unsuitable for shit London roads and uncomfortable cruising position. Frames I refer to are eg. latest Vigorelli, Lavoro, Koga, Bridgestone.

good thing i don't want it for the road. though i love a super stiff frame so it might work for this dude.

that there is a difference between a track frame and a road conversion/single speed frame.

i'm sick of looking around on ebay and such and seeing "track frame" only to see the lax geometry and all sorts of braze ons.

fuck! if you're going to jump into something, you'd think they'd know a thing or two about it.

i just want a sweet little track bike for the drome.

=(

generally, this doesn't happen, although the word 'fixed', or 'track' is thrown in as a search helper. to be honest though, who gives a shit, anyone buying a weird conversion on spec, without checking what it is, deserves it.

'a sweet little track bike for the drome'? Rad, dude.

it's Kilgore Trout's little brother ....dude.

what "drome" are you near?

IMO track frames in their advanced state are not that suitable for road use. Reason, very stiff, unsuitable for shit London roads and uncomfortable cruising position. Frames I refer to are eg. latest Vigorelli, Lavoro, Koga, Bridgestone.

according to people who've owned and ridden (industry testers, not hipsters) the cinelli vigorelli and condor lavoro are good track bikes, when ridden on the road they are extremely fast and responsive, the bb shell is stiff as fuck so you get back what you put in. BUT, yes on long rides a proper road bike will be more comfortable.

track bikes are great on short hops, stop n' start riding and in traffic IME, but they are found wanting on long stretches of proper tarmac. simple as that, we all know this, but not all of us can afford two or three bikes.

it's hard to find something to do both without serious compromise one way or the other (my wilson, for example is a perfect road fixed, but on the track it's going to shit me up)

I think the distinction is less understood in the states, where you frequently hear talk of "riding track" when there's no velodrome in sight, it just means "riding fixed wheel"

(my wilson, for example is a perfect road fixed, but on the track it's going to shit me up)

well, apart from the low BB, which you moan about, and is something worth bearing in mind with conversions

it's Kilgore Trout's little brother ....dude.

what "drome" are you near?

really? a smaller version of gary the bostonian modernist destroyer of bicycles?

rad.

I've ridden my track bike as a SS town bike and it was lovely. Just damn quick. Think it being a small frame helped, as well as the carbon seatpost and comfy saddle. Anything up to 50km and it was fine.

Tip for buying a 'proper' track frame for track is it go against trend - ie go for something sporty rather than classic.

I've ridden my track bike as a SS town bike and it was lovely. Just damn quick. Think it being a small frame helped, as well as the carbon seatpost and comfy saddle. Anything up to 50km and it was fine.

Tip for buying a 'proper' track frame for track is it go against trend - ie go for something sporty rather than classic.

You mean something like a Fuji Track Pro? ;)
How's the frame working out for ya, Tom?

IMO track frames in their advanced state are not that suitable for road use. Reason, very stiff, unsuitable for shit London roads and uncomfortable cruising position. Frames I refer to are eg. latest Vigorelli, Lavoro, Koga, Bridgestone.

Trackframes are very nice for aggressive riding in the city.. imho.

Haj - I think 50/14 is talking about modern track frames. You can't seriously think some like the below would be good for riding in the city?

^ If you have more money than sense, then yes this would be the perfect 'commuting with panache' solution.

yes of course, absolutely right. this bike is perfect for the commute through london. it's almost as though this bike was designed with the walworth road in mind. i can't believe it, it''s like serendipitious in the extreme.

i wonder how many people cringe when they see risers on pro track bikes too

i don't cringe, however, i laugh when i see lo-pros with eleven spacers and risers.

according to people who've owned and ridden (industry testers, not hipsters) the cinelli vigorelli and condor lavoro are good track bikes, when ridden on the road they are extremely fast and responsive, the bb shell is stiff as fuck so you get back what you put in. BUT, yes on long rides a proper road bike will be more comfortable.
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I suppose it's a great time nowadays that bicycle company are building fixed gear road bike (The Charge Plug is a perfect example amongst those too-relaxed looking geometry of the other brand like Specialized)

well, apart from the low BB, which you moan about

only because it might be too low for the track, fine on the road.

I'm shit at cornering anyway.

only because it might be too low for the track, fine on the road.

I'm shit at cornering anyway.

I dunno, low BB is a menace, it's fine on road bike if you're freewheeling as you can stop pedalling if you're cornering very hard.

fixed? I cannot tell you the amount of time i scrapped my pedal and almost fell off...

I don't scrape pedals with 165 cranks and spds, but then my bike has a similar clearence to a condor pista, it's fine.

it's more of a lean than you think. I've scraped pedals on conversions with ordinary pedals, clips and straps, but only when going divvy.

my point being, road fixed doesn't need track height BB, in fact too high on the road is crap.

some bikes though, do have very low BBs, especially if you put 700c on a frame meant for 27". this is when it can get dicey.

RPM - get down to Westie Beers tonight dude. come on, it's like a 15 min spin from your hood

no can do J-man, gotta go watch a film about peak oil

yeah, I know, but there's the chance for beer after.

yeah, I know, .
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you know where we are dude, would be super if you could spin by