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@pajamas
cheers dude but I'm beginning to think it would be nice to build the wheels I'm going to ride - do you think this is a good idea first time or should I do a demo wheel?
also for the hubs I've been looking at (SJSC fixed-fixed) SJS has qutoed 287mm for the rear and 288mm for the front so I guess I'd be getting these. Does this sound right?