Most dangerous road users

F*cking bus drivers man.They've gone nuts recently.

It's those enormous dump trucks from building sites that give me the fear. The ones where the front 4 wheels turn. Horrible things - I can't believe that they're small enough to be allowed on urban streets.

It's those enormous dump trucks from building sites that give me the fear. The ones where the front 4 wheels turn. Horrible things - I can't believe that they're small enough to be allowed on urban streets.

I hate them as well. So many of the things near Dalston Junction mixing it up with the buses. shudder

come on then Bill, what's the answer? trucks? they also give me the fear - I avoid them like the plague, never go down the inside of them

It's trucks, surely – those ones you can drive on a normal car licence? Any cnut can drive them and most of them do so as though they're cars. too fast

Overdrive is right, too - it seems like bus drivers are proper cunts at the moment - pulling out in front of you, even when they can see you. Overtaking and then stopping right away. Getting out of their cab and punching you in the gob (Hael?)

But I vote the really dangerous people is anyone who's not paying proper attention to what they're doing. Cars, cabs, buses, lorries and (gasp) cyclists...

Of course statistically it's HGVs and statistics is the only numerical measure we have. The problem being of course that just due to their size that even a small mistake can end in tragedy and the reaction of a large lorry is so much slower. I don't know if the statistics are corrected for the proportion of lorries on London roads compared to cars how the accident rates compare (not death rates just accident rates). This does not take away from the fact that lorries are the single biggest killer of cyclist on London roads.

I think saying trucks are the man danger is misappropriating the real dangers on our roads. These trucks are pretty easy to see and therefore very easy to avoid. At the risk of offending anyone. You have to be pretty fucking stupid to cycle on the inside of any kind of hgv/bus or truck. Stationary or not!

Same with post vans , bmws and cuntstons. You know your enemy and can take preventative measures.

The blue stickers of death brigade are however a different kettle of fish. They go under the guise of normal road users and it is only until you are inches from death or serious injury, as I was yesterday, that you notice the blue sticker.

The trucks are very easy to see, but we're not very easy to see from their perspective - there's a good article about the manifold blind-spots involved here, on movingtarget.

Exactly my point. We can see the trucks so we can make sure we keep a great distance from them and don't go into the drivers blind areas. But the Blue sticker crew seem to have a blind area which covers a 50 metre radius from their entire vehicle

Definately those private cars with the blue (or yellow?) stickers in the back window. They drive like proper shits.

I shouted some colourful abuse at one guy a while back after he nearly wiped me out and he screeched to a halt and got out of his car shouting at me. He was a fuckin loony! It was like some gang shit outta The Wire!!

I'm sort of with you mike. My default thought is why did they undertake the lorry. But... the lorry could come from behind start to pass you then make a turn into you. Are you proposing that upon noticing a lorry approaching from behind we quickly hop on the pavement and dash for safety into a shop until they are a clear mile down the road?

perhaps this should read. we can avoid dangerous vehicles if we are appooraching them but not the other way around, you can't avoid all risk.

Yes I do agree with that. However, and this is what I do. If I know a lorry is approaching me, I turn around and I keep turning around ( while keeping a good speed ) and I make sure the driver sees me. Even if this means swinging out into the road right in front of him.

I agree that this would mean I have to be travelling quickly to begin with and that is true, I do cycle very quickly. And yes, If I think any shit is going on either in front or behind. I am straight onto the pavement. But not quite into the nearest shop!

I'm all for the taking a positive position in the road theory but I don't recall ever extending that to lorries, I just don't trust them. Never thought to hop onto the pavement to avoid hazrds I think thats down to me being slightly belligerent, I have a right to be on the road, perhaps I should lighten up a little :)

I'm saying mad dudes in banged-out 3.0l Capris and Mantas ragging it down Kingsland road

+1 - a newly licensed 4x4 just pulled out on me down hoxton street (parallel to kingsland) - went right in to the spare tyre - knocked my bar end plug out and set the handlebars off - had to go down to blb to borrow a tool (sods law that i didn't have mine on me at the time :-P)

Of course statistically it's HGVs and statistics is the only numerical measure we have. The problem being of course that just due to their size that even a small mistake can end in tragedy and the reaction of a large lorry is so much slower. I don't know if the statistics are corrected for the proportion of lorries on London roads compared to cars how the accident rates compare (not death rates just accident rates). This does not take away from the fact that lorries are the single biggest killer of cyclist on London roads.

Lorries are 14 times more likely to kill... oh, have a look at the HGV/cyclist tab on the Moving Target site. There's heaps of links to stats and studies.

There was no option for all of them! lol
Buses seem to be particuarly bad atm, then the next week it might be black cabs.

Apparently your posts were serious !? (which makes them all the more hilarious) :)

How is mentioning someone's country of origin a racist statement ? Are any of these statements racist:

Hippy, who comes from Australia, last cleaned his bike in 1997 ?

tynan you friggin' racist! It was 1996.

I like to spread the love.. I try crash into or bit hit by everything, evenly.
I think it makes it fairer for the road statisticians.