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@marmet
ah ok, the only thing it seems with the Saturday rides, is that they are often only about 30-35 miles and I'm looking for rides over 50 preferably. I will take a look at that one, hopefully they do longer ones too...I must say though after doing 2 weekends in a row of Rp, I wanted to slit my throat, it is mind numbingly boring, last time we ended up bowing out after 3 laps and went an explored instead. Exploring is fun!...especially when you find nice pubs for mid way refreshments!