Quick release back wheel?

Right. I just bought a new Young's frame. It's a racing conversion. I mostly wanted the frame to gasp turn it back into a racing bike, but it turns out I love riding it fixed so I might keep it that way for a while. Now, the guy I bought it from has chucked a lock ring on a quick release wheel and has put it on the back with a 22t. I have had a few near disastrous chain mishaps so far. My questions are:

Is it safe to ride with a back wheel with quick release? Is there any way to make it safe? Am I being a bit of a fanny?

don't tell me you've been riding a fixed wheels with a quick release????!?

Is it safe to ride with a back wheel with quick release? Is there any way to make it safe? Am I being a bit of a fanny?

Get a chain tug if you can find one to fit your frame.

I think riding with a QR rear should be fine if it is tight enough.

If the QR is quality enough as well...

What do you mean by "I have had a few near disastrous chain mishaps so far."?

I'm guessing rear wheel slipping forward under pressure from setting off at junctions? You realy don;t want that - I ran myself over when that happen on my old (SS) conversion. Figure that out.

I bought a surly chaintug (works fine on front-facing dropouts) and just did up the QR skewer as tight as physically possible. No problems after that.

Did you flip over the handle bars then run yourself over? By near disastrous I mean I ride with no brakes and the chain came off over near Tower Bridge (before I got to the downhill thank bejesus). Indeed, too much force at junctions. Whoops! I do think that with enough physical force and a daily retightening I should be ok. I didn't think of chain tugs however, big rookie move on my part. I would trade the back wheel out for a different one but it is a Copag Omega 19 and it rides like a dream...except for the chain coming loose. I did a long ride after posting the first one and I've had no probs since.

No brakes and a chain that comes off every now and again !?

You need no advice from me.

Hush now. I just bought the bike the other day.

Actually, where can I get some Surly chain tugs?

Is it safe to ride with a back wheel with quick release?

Yes, it is relatively safe.

This has got to be a wind up.

Actually, where can I get some Surly chain tugs?

Hubjub.co.uk

Not a wind up, really. Guy sold it to me as I said, no brakes on it. I've ridden no brakes for about a year so I didn't think twice. This is why I'm asking here if there is a way to make it safe. If not I ditch it.

Ahh, I got the impression you had just bought your first fixed-wheel off some bloke, and were riding brakeless.

Asm and Tynan reckon it'd be ok with a tug/good quality QR skewer. Personally, I wouldn't just in case, and would have a look at the hub to see if it can be used with bolts.

QR's DO come undone from time to time, also the threads on the tention bolt end are pretty thin and I wouldn't like to say they wouldn't strip.

Sheldon reckoned its fine with a good quality skewer.....

don't tell me you've been riding a fixed wheels with a quick release????!?

i have, it works fine for me

Sheldon reckoned its fine with a good quality skewer.....

He says it's fine for singlespeed. Fixed and brakeless? Hmm.

He says it's fine for fixed too.

Yeah, i've read sheldon saying it's fine fixed, if you do it up tight enough. You can get QRs HELLISHLY tight, so tight i had to remove my seatpost and use it as a lever to get undone after a puncture once. (but of course sheldon does not condone brakeless riding under any circumstance, let alone with a QR skewer which is undoubtedly inferior to tracknuts)

With a chaintug, (surly, which you can buy from condor), you'll be fine. you only really need one on the driveside.

RE: running myself over - I really have no idea. The backwheel was shifted so much it came off, i smacked myself in the gut with the stem, found myself lying in the road underneath my front wheel, with my rear wheel rolling towards the thames. I also hard a tyre mark all the way down my left leg ending in a nasty cut on my ankle. No idea how.

^^ early days of making my own bikes. Haha.

this is precisely what I meant, it's a bit too risky to run QR on a fixed wheels, a bit more delicate than the usual one.

I'd be more worried about the suicide hub, brakeless.

it's a BB lockring over a fixed sprocket on a freewheel hub is it?

not worth the hassle, get a proper track hub from on-one for £15 and kill two birds with one stone.

Most QR axles can be replaced with a nut and bolt axle for very little money really.

I had a SS MTB with QR rear but then it did have vertical drops so less likely to slip out on pedalling/

I've got a QR on my rear wheel (PitLocked), no probs... Chain tug absolutely essential tho'...

No, it isn't my first fixed. My first was a no name track frame, soI haven't had to deal with the conversion stuff. Tallsam, is there a tutorial somewhere for switching out the nut and bolt axle on the QR.