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@Merak
Fred,
I didn't say it wasn't the right size. I was referring to the stand over height. After all I have an inch and a bit between my crown jewels and the top tube.
My stumpjumper is like a womans bike in terms of geometry, my Giant compact is similar, a really steep slope on the top tube. The Wiler has not so much slope, agreed its far from traditional track frame geometry but its NOT a compact frame you will know this as you have seen it.
I did 80k on it on Saturday and it felt really good. I summoned up the courage to cut the steerer tonight too my arse was making chocolate buttons throughout though, took it really easy got a 5mm spacer above the stem for fine adjustment.
The point of my original post was to ask what kind of clearance should there be when standing over a bike that is not compact that was all.
Cheers :)