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@gizmond
Thanks for the ideas, Just seems a bit of a shame to put nice rims (well they are nice for me) with crap hubs. I have an old campag chorus in need of some love that might go to make up my new front which would leave me more spends for the rear, but I think I will hunt around more for some a 'midrange' long axle hub... unless someone had a black goldtec rear going spare?