Mini D Locks

Yes, that is true, my point was more about difficult it is to cut through rims - they are under compresion so trap a hacksaw blade. It's a power tool kind of job - enough for me to leave without worrying, but probably not overnight in secluded, scuzzy area.

Okay, fair point. As you say, if it is good enough for Sheldon...

Answer C?

"A fast train leaves London for Brighton and at the same time a slow train leaves Brighton for London. The fast train leaves at 80 mph and the slow train travels at 35 mph. When they meet, which is farther from London?" :D

The answer is in the question. No working needed.

I have this . . .slightly bigger than the fagedaboudit bit still super tough and easy to haul around, i think it is the new version of the 3000?? I like it because i can use it on my SS MTB as well as my fixed

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?cid=1001&scid=1000&pid=1096

How about the risk of someone thinking "that bike isn't locked properly" and trying to do some weird puzzle with your wheel and drop outs and chainstays, bending the whole lot before finally giving up. If the bike had been locked with the seat tube, they might not have bothered.

"Pitlocks" for the wheels to prevent someone stealing them,
and then you can attach your mini D-lock anywhere on the frame and everyone's a winner :D

Cable lock and a Big D-lock just becomes cumbersome after a while.
I should know, cos that's what i do.

I regret not doing what i said above. But at the time i didn't know any better :/

the faghettaboutit mini-d is very heavy, go to a bike store and put one in your bag/pocket and walk around with it for a bit before you make a decision.

I leave the fageddablahblah mini attached to the place I lock up all day when i go home and carry the mini Evo around with me.

OnGuard Pitbull Mini is a bit lighter but almost as tough as the foargetttabbbouioughtit. But not as yellow.
Bike thieves laugh at pit locks, so they say.

Has anyone actually had a wheel stolen when it was fitted with a pitlock? I'd be interested to hear as I've just fitted them to my bike.

Actual pitlocks, not the cheap imitations.

^there are pics from an earlier Pitlock discussion on here of the outer sleeves crushed so they 'grab' the inner keyed bit. Put me off.

Has anyone actually had a wheel stolen when it was fitted with a pitlock? I'd be interested to hear as I've just fitted them to my bike.

Actual pitlocks, not the cheap imitations.

yes! my friend did. police recovered the bike to him, the pits had been bolt cropped off! there's a photo somewhere on the forum .. can't remember where.

Damn. That's worrying. Lucky my Kryptonite chain just stretches to both wheels.

jesus !! effing christ ? you'd think at the price of pitlocks [£30 for just the front !!] you'd get a decent quality product.
That goes to show dun-it, never assume anything until its proven.
Shoked that pitlocks are so weak.

right then had a rumble on t'internet and these skewers look much better

theyre Pinhead skewers and i think it would be harder to grip these and turn them ^^

My mate has got the "Faghettaboudit" which weighs a TON , more than my whole bike and maybe one of my legs. But the key has got a cool little blue light on it which you could use to pretend to be a police car . Its one of those locks that i would encourage a friend to buy so i could get him to lock up your bike as well but not have to carry the fukkin thing around in your bag. i got the standard one which is apparently car jack proof coz they are so short , but if someone's got a cordless disc cutter with a skinny slitting disc its not much use, but nothing is :(

know your enemy:
Don't have nightmares...

I have this . . .slightly bigger than the fagedaboudit bit still super tough and easy to haul around, i think it is the new version of the 3000?? I like it because i can use it on my SS MTB as well as my fixed

http://www.kryptonitelock.com/Products/ProductDetail.aspx?cid=1001&scid=1000&pid=1096

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how long would it take to cut through that new york lock with that panasonic angle grinder?

3 seconds?

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three minutes, according to bike radar. They didn't test freight trains, though.
On the plus side, they said it almost bust their angle grinder.

Second, cutting the rear rim is much harder than you might think. Since the rim is under substantial compression due to the tension on the spokes, it would pinch a hacksaw blade tight as soon as it cut partway through. Then there are the wire beads of the tire, also difficult to cut.

Hmm, everyone seems to take Sheldon's word for this (including me, this is my locking strategy most of the time). I'd like to actually put it to the test against a big pair of bolt-cutters/grinder. You can bolt cutter spokes very quickly if you go for the cross, then tension goes away and the rim is a lot easier to cut.

The hacksaw example is bogus, cos no-one around here goes bike thieving with a hacksaw.

Krypto NY 3000s aren't that heavy. I rode with mine (and change of clothes, mini d lock, food, drink, book, tools) to and from work everyday over the summer back home, and there's hills there unlike in London. I was definitely fitter after a few weeks.

Htfu!