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also. im not convinced that this veiw is elitist. take a look on the roads, i'd say its a truth. perhaps the definitions arent perfect but the sentiment is. there are people who ride a lot or a little but are still safe and aware. and then there are people who ride a lot or a little and no feckin clue and are generally a hazard and unpredictable. scarey to watch or ride behind. i sometimes find myself behind them in london and i find i cant overtake for fear of leaving them to get squished. so i ride behind them, a bit further out in the road than them, sheilding them if you like so they arent forced in to the gutter or spook drivers with their wiggle/wobble.