Fixed or single speed

I'm 17, so we could be gay lovers if you like. I'd love to be your bitch. I'd do onything to show you how truly sorry I am.

Anything?

Yes.

Trackion and downward force over the only to things to be in contact with the ground are very important. especially the front. IF you were to apply lots of force to your peddle strokes then the load will be carried to the rear wheel. But maybe you have the front wheel as your drive wheel on your set up then of course disregard this.

what the fuck are you talking about? this doesn't even make sense!

Okay this thread has been piss funny and I don't want to stop the bickering but here's my question anyway..

When cornering, don't you adjust your body weight through the corner to keep the bike up?
If this is the case then it doesn't matter what the pedals are doing as the majority of your body weight is in your 'adjustable' torso/head area. Does this sound reasonable fizzsucks buffs?

Another thing: Linked to the rear wheel via a fixed drivetrain gives a better feel for rear wheel traction and also the ability to make minute adjustments to rear wheel speed without brake pad/disc/whatever use. So, if you were an adept fixed rider could you not be faster through wet corners, etc. than when freewheeling?

Just some thoughts.. address and then get back to the ranting please you lot.

Love,
hippy

not if you where in the front seat

With "crash" in your username I think I would be inclined to agree with you on that one

h2o is right. I think I should, for my part, be the bigger man (or adolescent, or boy, whatever) and apologise.
Torpid Construct, I apologise for saying that I would insert my penis into your mouth for the sole purpose of triggering you gag reflex. Also, I apologise for the wild, outlandish claim that I healed your mother's throat illness with my penis. Also, I apologise for saying that I could cure your father's eye disease by inserting my penis into his eyesocket as I know that you may have got your hopes up for a cheap cure, but let me assure you that the claim has no medical standng whatsoever. Finally, I apologise for saying that I would engage in sexual intercourse with your cancer-ridden mother. Obviously, it could be an emotionally disturbing on her part, so for her own safety, the most I would take is a handjob, possibly with a little bit of fellatio, but not too much. I would certainly not go so far as to ejaculate onto her face or in her mouth. I hope that we can now settle this silly disagreement and that we can be friends.

hehehe

would the bank of a velodrome be considered a corner?

Okay this thread has been piss funny and I don't want to stop the bickering but here's my question anyway..

When cornering, don't you adjust your body weight through the corner to keep the bike up?
If this is the case then it doesn't matter what the pedals are doing as the majority of your body weight is in your 'adjustable' torso/head area. Does this sound reasonable fizzsucks buffs?

Another thing: Linked to the rear wheel via a fixed drivetrain gives a better feel for rear wheel traction and also the ability to make minute adjustments to rear wheel speed without brake pad/disc/whatever use. So, if you were an adept fixed rider could you not be faster through wet corners, etc. than when freewheeling?

Just some thoughts.. address and then get back to the ranting please you lot.

Love,
hippy

The front wheel is the one that matters in the corners. If the back goes you can hopefully deal with it, but the front, well it's too late. Either fixed or SS I wouldn't recommend braking in the turn. Set your speed on approaching the corner.

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would the bank of a velodrome be considered a corner?

For the purpose of this discussion I would say no. Cornering on a road is quite different.

There are always exceptions * have to add the disclaimer before someone finds a picture of a banked corner on a road and posts it up.

If the front wheel is the one that matters.. what's fixed vs. singlespeed got to do with cornering?

I know you set your speed before a turn but what happens when you hit that wet patch you didn't see or the corner was tighter than expected, etc.
You have to adjust.

so what makes a corner on a road? is there a point where the angle is too relaxed to be considered a corner?

ye, then it becomes a curve

maybe it's when you have to consciously move the handlebars instead of just leaning a bit

If you coast through the corner in the wet you are less likely to disrupt the traction. It is easier to get weight over the front, though some claim that they can do this as easily while pedaling. Each pedal stroke transmits forces to the rear. They are not as consistent as coasting.
If theres oil in the road say a prayer.

Then theres defensive and offensive cornering strategies. If you don't know the corner then you will perhaps be a little unwise to go hell for leather at it. other things to consider are crest and apex. does the corner go down hill/slope down after the apex? serious loss of traction will happen at the transition. if it slopes up after the apex or during the entire corner then I would have more confidence in traction.

Your first paragraph sounds reasonable but you are again talking about the drivetrain difference losing traction of the rear wheel which you also said isn't so important - it's the front wheel that matters.

I can and do alter my body weight fixed or free to cater for traction loss, corners, farting, whatever so I'm still not sure about the fixed vs. ss cornering thing. The drivetrain doesn't affect my body positioning because I can move around just as much, whether fixed or free - imagine your legs were separated from your body, basically.

Your second paragraph doesn't really deal with adjusting mid-corner.

I understood that handling is better if there is power going through the wheel, rather than coasting. If so then this would affect your theory.

I can't imagine my legs separated from my body. I'm not going to try either.

Drive chain action can effect traction at the *front.

*I adjust before the corner so i don't need to during the corner. Its safer that way I reckon.

Your aviator pic suggest that you ain't got much experience of corners ;)

I dropped out after gcse, but if you ride fixed, you can skid around the corner so that you are facing the correct direction earlier and further back on the toad, which would presumably be safer (if this makes any sense)

I understood that handling is better if there is power going through the wheel, rather than coasting. If so then this would affect your theory.

can you elaborate on the handling is better if there is power going through the wheel?

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, when are we going to hook up torpid? pm me your address and favourite lube

i tend to think that anything that gives you more control over the bike is going to aide your cornering under any conditions, wet or dry.

whether or not a fixed gear improves your bike control depends on your skill level.

other factors such as frame geometry, tyre choice, and rider position will have much more effect.

in other words, blanket statements like "singlespeeds are better at cornering in the wet" are incomplete.

I dropped out after gcse, but if you ride fixed, you can skid around the corner so that you are facing the correct direction earlier and further back on the toad, which would presumably be safer (if this makes any sense)

I got kicked out before my GCSE's. I appreciate you can skid round, some can't though. I'm not convinced as too whether its safer. I'm pretty sure it's slower though.

If the theory is that a bikes wheel holds the road better when being driven (pedalled in this case) rather than when it is freewheeling then surely this will negate (some of) the weight placement theory?

i tend to think that anything that gives you more control over the bike is going to aide your cornering under any conditions, wet or dry.

whether or not a fixed gear improves your bike control depends on your skill level.

other factors such as frame geometry, tyre choice, and rider position will have much more effect.

in other words, blanket statements like "singlespeeds are better at cornering in the wet" are incomplete.

Maybe you didn't bother reading my other posts.