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thanks for your opiniions folks. the top tube is long enough at 22 inches i think if remember rightly. the seat is a very mini 15 inches cc. (im five ten and a half) i think if i put a shorter stem on id be sat more upright and it'd be more like the fun kick about bike i wanted to build, perfect for wheelies and fooling around town on. with the seat post out that far its alright on my knees. can obvioously change the gearing to make it quicker but then im not wanting a bike to get places quick on. i was wanting a summer bike really. i have a road fixed with fenders for all weather and a big gear for speed so this is just a fun bike thouugh i'd have to sell my filmore to get it. or something else, (anyone need to buy a juicer? £150 new hardly used sell £100??). nice for your veiws. keep em coming if you have anything else.