Holy sh!t . . these frames are the nuts

i really doubt if these frames are a step up from bob jackson.

they've been building frames since before this guy's dad was even a twinkle in his grandad's eye.

Well IMO a bob jackson, whilst a nice enough bit of kit, is pretty much an entry level frame when it comes to the world of quality frames, and a companies age has got nothing to do with the product they put out. Anyway each to their own, but i was mighty impressed with the quality of work that had gone into these frames - and they certainly dont resemble the hhsb's and hipstermobiles you see cluttering up the eastend these days.