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reminds me of this:
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see〈=es&code=a5f500b5183a557f45bdc11083ea2857
http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/index.php?module=see〈=br&code=4943a519107030cc488e6e0f48a817da
dunno how to make clean links anymore...
http://www.londonfgss.com/thread1396.html