• we're just going to have to disagree on this. but this is just bullshit anyway without doing an actual test of stopping distance comparing the different braking mechanisms at different speeds - which i'm sure nobody here can be fucked with.

    to get back to the original point of the thread, and to the numerous times i've already said this exact thing in this thread: i personally don't think fixed brakeless or SS + front brake is ideal - i think you need two means of braking. that's my opinion and i'm sticking to it.

    i also don't think it's bullshit to expect road users to take adequate steps to look after the safety of other road users. call me crazy.

    can we kill this thread now?

    I'm afraid I'm rather dogged. Why are we going to just have to disagree on this? it is completely nonsensical to argue that you can stop as fast on a brakeless fixie as you can on an ss with front brake. as i have said, front brake = 75% stopping power comp to back. This is because it is nearly impossible to skid a front tyre, and when skidding you're not braking terribly efficiantly. Sheldon says it so it must be true. I agree that 2 brakes good. but I don't think hes gonna hurt anyone else with his ss front brake, unless he flips over the bars onto them, which is i reckon less likely than someon braking suddenly and having someone running into the back of them.

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