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oh, email the man at mayor@london.gov.uk
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ah, sorry for the duplication. but, having said that, we see countless cases of crappy laws being passed under one excuse, but they are so poorly written that they end up getting hijacked and used for something entirely different. See the case of the 3 year old girl in Poole, being placed under surveillance for 2 weeks to see if she was elligible for a school place.
So the important thing is not what is their intent, but what does the actual (revised / new) legislation say?
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Yep, whoever it was I wrote to about this back in january was well pissed off at having the LCC get everyone to write to him. Said the only bikes that would be removable would be ones that caused an obvious or dangerous obstruction, and that this is already the case now.
That answer sounds like it is a way of avoiding the question - if the councils can already remove bikes that are a dangerous obstruction, why would they need new powers?
I still say write to the guys - it doesn't take a great leap of the imagination to think what Councils will do with these extra powers when you see what they have done with the RIP Act.
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fucking knob-ends.
it pisses me right off when I can't find anything to lock to, now they're going to take my bike?
I have to go all over town, and lock up wherever, there's scarce anything decent to go to half the time, let alone the danger of thievery.
can't always take the bike into a building..
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I just returned from Denmark (see attached pictures) and cyclists are seen in a very different light. They get right of way over cars, have parking everywhere and live in a culture where there are so many bikes that a tiny lock on your bike, that is not even attached to anything, will suffice in keeping your bike safe. See attached picture of the bikes outside the main train station in Copenhagen. It was so nice to see. They also have their own part of the road that cant be used by cars or pedestrians. I guess our problem is that a) we don't have the space on the roads and b) cycling is being adapted into our roads (lanes etc...) whereas the Danes have grown up with that being the norm.
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I just returned from Denmark (see attached pictures) and cyclists are seen in a very different light. They get right of way over cars, have parking everywhere and live in a culture where there are so many bikes that a tiny lock on your bike, that is not even attached to anything, will suffice in keeping your bike safe. See attached picture of the bikes outside the main train station in Copenhagen. It was so nice to see. They also have their own part of the road that cant be used by cars or pedestrians. I guess our problem is that a) we don't have the space on the roads and b) cycling is being adapted into our roads (lanes etc...) whereas the Danes have grown up with that being the norm.
I loved cycling in Copenhagen, and the city itself is AMAZING. It's one of my favourite places in the world (up there with Montreal!). But re: right of way over cars. Isn't it like that here technically? I always thought that's what the big green gap at stop lights tacitly implied... Maybe I should take one of those cycling courses it seems all you guys did in elementary school...
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FYI--the LCC has succeeded in campaigning for Parliament not to proceed with the anti-cycling clauses in the draft Bill.
Link here (don't want to re-post the same info in the threads dealing with this:
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from the usually impotent LCC : http://www.lcc.org.uk/index.asp?PageID=1061
see the attachment as to what to do...
Bicycle parking in London could become a lottery if a new law proposed by the Mayor and London Councils gets through.
The law will allow council officials to forcibly remove bikes chained to railings or lampposts without any warning. The legislation could arrest the welcome growth in cycling in the capital and undermine the Mayor’s plans to reduce car traffic and crowding on public transport by encouraging an increase in cycling.
The London Local Authorities and Transport for London (No. 2) Bill is being proposed by the London Councils and Transport for London. London Councils say the legislation on “Items deposited on the highway” can be used to remove bicycles. Council officers will be able to forcibly remove bikes immediately “for good or safe management of the highway” if they cannot identify an owner. Unless bike owners correctly follow a formal procedure for reclaiming their bikes their cycles may be disposed of without compensation.
LCC campaigns manager Tom Bogdanowicz said “There is not nearly enough cycle parking in London - if this law is passed bike parking will become a lottery - bike owners may go to work and have no bike when they are going home. This legislation will undermine any plans the Mayor has to increase cycling.”
Under the proposed law officers will be required to leave a notice in place of the bike they have removed, but thieves or vandals could easily take such notes. Owners of bikes that have been removed will only have 14 days to reclaim them, or councils will be able to dispose of the bike and charge the owner for the cost of disposal.
[B]London Cycling Campaign is urging cycle users to write to the Mayor and their councillors to ask them to change the damaging law. You can download a template email using the links on the right. Please take action today.[/B]
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