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  • How about we approach the council and ask if they can fill the holes, when they say no we could offer to do it for them?

    yeah where's roxy when you need her eh?

  • A lump hammer and the bricks are just as easy to remove as zip tied pieces of scrap wood.

    If you want to do a job which is hard to remove you would need to put up some shuttering around where you you want holes filled in and fill with a string mix of concrete. Ideally you would drill some holes into the tarmac and insert and cement in some metal rods which would then give the concrete something to bind to / around.

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  • yeah where's roxy when you need her eh?

    I'll get onto it this week

  • true, but bricks are harder to remove so maybe they wouldn't bother?

    i think they would see it as a bit of a piss take..they would remove them just to spite us..

  • tommy what would you say is the best option...in terms of price,time ect

  • fuck this, I'm moving on to pastures greener...

  • I think Object has the best idea of asking the council to fill in the holes or allow us to do it ourself, there is no point doing anything if it just gets ripper off down whatever. They may say they will fill in the gap but it would take they at least 3 - 6 month to do. I wrote a letter to Greenwich about the dangerous state of one of the skate parks and they did th job but it took along time to go though all the correct channels.

    Wood and zipp tie or if the council wanted a better job wood and some u-bolts to hold every thing in place is best and a doable solution. If a level was taken and followed all the way around it would look tidy so as not to off put the locals that there facilities where looking shabby..

    I can't imagion the council allowing us to put concrete down of build a small wall. Lotts of issues with people work uninsured on the site as well as coming up with a good fished project which was deemed safe e.t.c They may allow the wood though or at least promise not to remove it.

    Regarding the logistics of concrete. In February I helped my Dad lay some foundations for a small garage. We layed three sides of an 11' by 11' foot square. From memory the footings were about 8" - 10" wide and 8" - 10" deep. This used 3/4 of a cubic meter of ready mix concrete. 1 cubic meter of concrete = approx 2.4 metric tons. This filled p a tipping trailer behind a transit. Now there footings would be bigger than anything needing to be built at the courts but it goes to show how much concrete is needed for a small project.

    If you went for bricks they retail at about 85 - 90 pence inc V.A.T + the cement + sand needed. Just for xsheepx's info.

    I hate to be negative on the idea of the bricks but there is a fair amount of work to it the logistics of even getting the water there would be a difficult. It is doable and if someone (xsheepx) can organize it then it would be good as long as it is sorted with the powers that be so it is not ripped up.

    Having said all this I have seen concrete down at loads of street spots before and it is not moved so it may be worth an experiment and buying say a small pre mixed bag of concrete and a hand full of bricks and seeing if it stays in place or if it is ripped up. If it stays slowly build up more and more around the court week by week. Actually this is prob the best idea try it and see how it goes. It will still end cost a fair bit but spread over several weeks and asking for contributions each time maybe people will be more generous a bit at a time rather than being asked for the money all at once. Just don't expect me to carry a load of bricks in my rucksack!

    God that was a long rambling answer!

  • I love to contradict myself.

  • Ok so if we ask and they say no then that is kind of it (they will be keeping eyes out for changes) if we do it ourselves with some bricks I doubt anyone will even notice, and save a world of hassle lets just get on and do it with bricks and mortar easy!!!!
    the only reason Y the wood got taken off last time was there was tuns or crap in the polo corght after the comp and the locals complained to the council (i have email's to pruve it) Im sure they will not complain about bricks they don't even notice.

  • ** "lets just get on and do it with bricks and mortar easy!!!!"
    **its not though.

  • you saying bricks are not tough?

  • no...

  • fine...

  • So should I hold off on asking the council then?

  • do what tommy says...he knows all.

  • I think we should just get on with it. This sunday (weather permitting) all chip in a few quid. Go to the hardware shop buy some concereat, find some brick and just do it. there were some brick's around the corte already and oposit where we get the wood from there are old bricks there im sure.

  • P.S Im not saying build a wall round the corte just fill up the holes in the fence with a few bricks. nothing fancy

  • do what tommy says...he knows all.

    I do not and I have the life to prove it.

    I contradicted myself in my last post. It won't be cheap but if you do a bit every week it will work, it is just the hassle of getting all the materials there e.t.c. If you live close though that is less of an issue. I make it out to be more of an issue as I like to do things correctly with straight lines and have a nice finish and work with levels and fully point everything e.t.c.

    Cement takes about 50 years to reach full hardness I have heard. This website just says year though.

    http://www.es.ucl.ac.uk/schools/UCL/cement.htm
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    "Portland cement starts to harden a few hours after mixing, because the hydrated tricalcium aluminate grows rapidly. Cement doesn’t start to become strong until some days later when the hydrated tricalcium silicate forms. It reaches 70% of full strength after about a month, and doesn’t reach full strength until several years later because the dicalcium silicate hydrates so slowly. This reaction is non-reversible."

    So be careful when you first lay it better to lay it at the end of a session.

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  • plus I over think things.

  • rob how do you intend to do this? are you going to fit the bricks under the fence to fill the gap or are you going to put the bricks up against the fence to block the gap?

    if the gap is big enough to slide a brick under it (bigger then 2.5 inches) then thats a bonus...if not you are going to have to cut the brick (which will require more tools)

    if you plan to build inside the court with the bricks up against the fence...the bricks are going to protrude 4 inches into the court...if you put the bricks sideways its still going to be 2.5 inches.
    thats going to be an obstacle for bikes and the ball...

    is there another brick method?

  • i reckon, each veggie or vegan, must donate a body limb to fill the gaps!

  • yeah i have an arm i don't use...

  • Could you just use rope (like around cricket pitches)
    24mm Polyprop rope is around £1.50 a meter.. is this viable?

  • prav, that's just too logical!! veggie/vegan limbs is where its at, carbon neutral and all ;)

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