London 2012 Olympics

The protests are a criticism of the Chinese government, not the Olympic movement.

yes, so why is this thread titled "Fuck the Olympics"? ;)

If (during the 1980s) we place an embargo on buying oranges from South Africa, are we attempting to bring pressure on the South African government or sending out a message that their actions are not acceptable, or are we angry at oranges ?

entirely valid point. but the olympics are bigger (and are arguably a better force for positive outcomes) than oranges. sure, there's a bit of corruption involved, but on the whole i think that if there is an attempt to make the chinese clean their house through global negative attention focused on them by the olympics... then good. let's face it, the tibetans haven't had such a good PR opportunity for decades!

we're basically agreeing with each other.