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• #27
Or pack them bloody good.
I just got a 57 bridgestone.. :)
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• #28
...they are still v.good steel' track' frames...
really? whats the big deal with NJS frames apart from the glitter deco? im curious. i imagine because they are made for keirin, they're built to push the limits of strength to weight ratio which makes it unsuitable for everyday road use. and on that, they are usually made for shorter japanese cyclists (do they adjust the tubing according to rider size/weight?). or is it cos they're built religously by holy craftsmen...hattori hanzo of keirin frames!
anyway, age old debate. prob discussed here before. just seems like a lot of money to me
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• #29
And white is gonna be all the rage this summer!
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• #30
MrSmith [quote]Bungle Vivalo have just had their NJS certification revoked, no?
then you are fucked if you want to play hipster bingo.[/quote]
Doesn't matter, still got the logo on my frame ;)
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• #31
They're exactly the same frames as what I just got for £390. There you go, there's your benchmark ;-)
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• #32
nice frames. Buy them both - sell them both - buy something else at a bargain price - sell it - etc.
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• #33
|³|MA3K Or pack them bloody good.
I just got a 57 bridgestone.. :)
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• #34
I payed ~350 pounds for mine, + 100 pounds in danish import tax :(
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• #35
OCD And white is gonna be all the rage this summer!
don't hipsters ride in the winter?
:-)
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• #36
Sounds like people are pretty keen for them then (those who don't want to lynch me for propogating the whole "NJS worship" thing). Given that Pistanator got his frame for 390, I'm guessing that we're looking around the 375 - 400 mark.
And, taking Provenrad's advice to heart (and given that I should really ride a 56cm), it may be that I can sell both if Carnival/W-Base have something slightly better fitting for me. If that's the case, the price will probably drop to something like 325-350 per frame region, as I'll have to make less profit per frame to cover the cost of mine.
The ironic thing is that even by buying three NJS frames, I'll still be spending less than I would have had to to buy the Claude Butler Path frame they've got. If I was less lazy I'd try and organise some sort of Europe/Japan frame swap with Carnival; their Italian/English/French frames are going for 600+! I wonder what Bob Jacksons cost in bulk...
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• #37
ask em if they want a vintage 1950 holdsworth track bike, with full english specs.
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• #38
dogsballs ask em if they want a vintage 1950 holdsworth track bike, with full english specs.
I can honestly say that, from what I could gather from my stilted conversation with the guy in Carnival, that is quite possibly the pisto Holy Grail for Tokyo residents. Two problems though:
I don't know what they'd be marking it up by, so the amount they'd want to give you might not be that huge (especially if they like to double their money).
How would you get it out there? My flight was only 290gn, so you could potentially take the bike out, flog it, buy something Keirin and still cover the cost? I think that shipping it would be quite costly.
If they ask though, how much would you want for it?
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• #39
£900-1000.
anyone going to japan?!?
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• #40
why did you build it if you're going to sell it?
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• #41
make money.
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• #42
I scored an immaculate 55cm Vivalo from Ebay couple of months ago for 390 squids, and that was the price after the shipping and customs duties & VAT. But yeah, the bigger size Keirin frame you manage to find, the higher price you can ask for it, apparently.
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• #43
well that much I would have guessed.
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• #44
Superprecise why did you build it if you're going to sell it?
for something to do and a challenge. but if someone is willing to pay good money, then i won't refuse.
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• #45
Superprecise well that much I would have guessed.
sorry...that wasn't meant to sound like that/
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• #46
ok fair enough. i'm sure i'd be way too attached to it! Just seen a lot of people selling newly built bikes recently.
Mine cost a fair bit to put together and I spent hours if not days finding the stuff so it'd have to be really really good money.
not being an arsehole or nosey, just curious.
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• #47
Superprecise ok fair enough. i'm sure i'd be way too attached to it! Just seen a lot of people selling newly built bikes recently.
Mine cost a fair bit to put together and I spent hours if not days finding the stuff so it'd have to be really really good money.
not being an arsehole or nosey, just curious.
this bike wasn't built to be personal, it was a period piece. plus most people pay too much for items and sell to re-coup money. most often than not for less than they built it ;)
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• #48
it's NOSS dontcha know!!
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• #49
I'm def interested mate, whisper me later if you can. Cheers!
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• #50
tom. [quote]dogsballs ask em if they want a vintage 1950 holdsworth track bike, with full english specs.
I can honestly say that, from what I could gather from my stilted conversation with the guy in Carnival, that is quite possibly the pisto Holy Grail for Tokyo residents. Two problems though:
I don't know what they'd be marking it up by, so the amount they'd want to give you might not be that huge (especially if they like to double their money).
How would you get it out there? My flight was only 290gn, so you could potentially take the bike out, flog it, buy something Keirin and still cover the cost? I think that shipping it would be quite costly.
If they ask though, how much would you want for it?[/quote]
this is sort of my idea for next year when i go there for my gap year, take a couple of english frames out there, merican and bob jackson, sell them for a bit more than i paid and then buy some stuff to bring back at the end of my stay, but as well as frames do they have a shortage of brooks saddles there, or any other small quintessentially british bike things?
gulps
wow.
sigh
do NOT send them by parcelforce.