Opinions on Fausto Coppis

eyebrows +1
And this talk of 'purist' meaning no-brakes is fscking stupid.

Track bikes on a track is the only real time to be concerned with that form of purist arseholishness. Safety bikes, path bikes, etc (ie the original fscking-road use fixed gears (wheels)) had brakes, SO that is technically pure- isn't it?

(I'll admit that my beater doesn't have a brake- because I can control it, and because its used for quick easy commutes- every other bike i own does- and I wouldn't change that for anything).

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pure track frame - no braze ons, no bottle mounts and definitely under any circumstance no holes......all right maybe forks but definitely no brake then........

bigben OK, dumb question time so don't shoot me:
I understand the handling differences between an out and out track frame and a frame with road bike geometry. Further, a "traditional" road/path frame has more road orientated geometry but track ends, so am I right in thinking that the drops/ends would be the primary difference between a road bike converted to fixed (especially one without lazy geometry) and a traditional road/path (as opposed to track) bike? If this is correct, then will someone explain what the big advantage is with track ends? I'm guessing that with both types tensioning the chain will alter the wheelbase a tiny tiny bit, but that track ends mean that the BB height will stay constant but is there more to it? Cheers.

Not a dumb question at all, really if a bike has horizontal dropouts, i don't understand why it matters which way they face. Generally road dropouts will mean slacker angles, therefore an easier and more comfortable ride, and my god that feels good after about half a year of a track frame, but as these coppis show, track ends on a bike don't necessarily mean that they come with a track bike (my alf webb is a case in point! :)

Cheers all, think we got that one covered.