Momentum [quote]dogsballs the whole point of this, is that they are not track frames. they are road bikes with track ends. i don't give a flying fuck about if someone rides with a brake or likes to tour the country side. In my mind it is merely false advertising on behalf of BLB, to once more fleece hipsters of there ££££'s. Fair enough charge the big ££££ for rare track frames, but don't with road frames with track ends.
But if BLB are selling brand new, lugged (and columbus by the looks of it) Fausto Coppi frames then they're an alright price at £350 regardless of whether they've got track ends, rack braze ons, spoke holders, derailleur tabs or whatever. It would be less of a good deal if they were hacked and resprayed second hand frames, but it seems like they're not.
BTW - what is a "track frame"? Do bareknuckles count even though they're drilled front and back? Do pursuit bikes count even though they have relatively slack headtubes to match the aerobars and lower BBs than some road bikes?[/quote]
Ahh... Yes, this is when you get into the different disciplines of track racing!
I would say that bareknuckles and the like are the modern representation of old 'road-path' frames. Comfortable enough to ride to the track and aggressive enough to race in novice/intermediate races.
Maybe pistonator's Coppi could fall into that category as a 'high-end modern road-path' frame? Which £350 would be a reasonable price.
But if BLB are selling brand new, lugged (and columbus by the looks of it) Fausto Coppi frames then they're an alright price at £350 regardless of whether they've got track ends, rack braze ons, spoke holders, derailleur tabs or whatever. It would be less of a good deal if they were hacked and resprayed second hand frames, but it seems like they're not.
BTW - what is a "track frame"? Do bareknuckles count even though they're drilled front and back? Do pursuit bikes count even though they have relatively slack headtubes to match the aerobars and lower BBs than some road bikes?[/quote]
Ahh... Yes, this is when you get into the different disciplines of track racing!
I would say that bareknuckles and the like are the modern representation of old 'road-path' frames. Comfortable enough to ride to the track and aggressive enough to race in novice/intermediate races.
Maybe pistonator's Coppi could fall into that category as a 'high-end modern road-path' frame? Which £350 would be a reasonable price.