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did the BHF (gears) last year and started at 0630. that was stupidly crowded. ride comes to a full stop up every hill and junctions. few accidents as well (much like the lfgss L2B tours!) so it's very hard to get a flow. stop start is very annoying. and loooong wait for coach ride home.
i suggest do our own (cos im not avail on the BHF date ;) and want to ride with the lfgss crew). we'll get a nearly uninterrupted ride and we can catch a train back. maybe a week or two after BHF's cos someone's bound to put the route up on bikely/gmap. if you feel guilty donate to BHF.
i think BMMF, hippy, brett, ma3k and others? got up ditchling on 46x17ish?!