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hacked is taking this way too seriously. i really don't think it's a matter for the courts.
you can't come on a forum pretending to be something you're not, and then get offended when people give you their opinion on your products.
and as for permission to cut and paste sections of the auction, it's not his to give. when you put something on ebay, ebay owns the copyright. look at the page.
i think he's very lucky to get an apology at all. i doubt anyone would think badly of tomasito for just telling him where to go, but he's actually stood up and apologized just to end the whole thing.
i think hacked should be very grateful for that.
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me I think Hacked has done his reputation more damage by getting his knickers in a twist and making a bit of a fanny of himself than would have happened if he had just left it.
Exactly, That thread was all but forgotten and would have stayed that way. All he has done now is made everyone aware of it and the product he is selling. He has no one to blame but himself. To be honest everyone on this forum pretty much would know better than to buy one of his bikes anyway so he isnt really gonna loose a huge amount of customers.
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Wouldn't it just be better if he built his bikes upto a better/higher standard, rather than just making them road worthy. Nothing wrong with being in business for the money, but this site is in it for the love, whatever style of fixed gear gets your heart pounding, and most of us know how much components cost and also how much we would pay for them. I get the sense that whoever buys bikes from him, will only end up shelling out more to get the bike into a more rugged and robust shape. He's selling bikes to those who don't know much and wants an apology from here because eventually those who are into fixed gear come across this site and if we are held as the fortress of truth, bike prejudice and fixed gear knowledge, then it doesn't do any trader any good to get on our bad side.
Personally I'd tell him to take a running jump, comment is free, and as I said at the top if he doesn't want to get "slagged off" he might want to think about building better bikes. If people are going to bitch and whine about BLB, then Hacked deserves no lesser treatment for doing the same thing just via the interweb... -
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Hacked Enough !!!
I have made my peace lets all leave it please ?? ?? ????
Welcome to the internet, where people are free to state their opinions. Yeah its tough seeing your creations getting slagged off, but thats life matey. The way to deal with it is with good humour, not legal threats and fuckery. That shit just makes you unpopular.
I'm free to state my opinion as is everyone here. My opinion is that you're an asshole who struggles to deal with criticism. Give me a reason to change it and I'll be glad to, but at the moment you do not come accross well.
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A very public apology
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As I told HACKED, we don't have moderators. We still don't. We just have lil' 'ol me... the admin of the service and not a content moderator.
I'm keeping count btw, and this is the second set of legal threats we've had from bike makers since inception of the forum. Tony (dafoney) Malone and now HACKED. It's rather tiresome. I will get around to making a big disclaimer soon that explains how the internets work and how it's really not my problem what people post and that people can and do post whatever they want.
I wouldn't worry about ever making apologies to anything. Unless you knowingly did set out to mislead the public about something or other. Even then, do it in a gross caricature way and you'll fall under first amendment provisions protecting free speech... did I mention we're hosted in the USA? St Louis, MO to be precise. The server is under that jurisdiction, the posts are owned by those who post them so would be under UK jurisdiction mostly. How a civil libel case in the UK would ever manage to subpoena a US criminal court for access to contact details from a US hosted server is beyond me as I am not a lawyer. Needless to say, it's going to be pretty hard for any threat to ever materialise unless you really go way over the line.[/quote]hehe, I think tomasito knew what he was doing posting his petrol soaked apology ..just sat back and waited for the FGSS pyromaniacs to come along ;) ...click...click....shake...click