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@Momentum
Damn right - they're a beautiful ride.
No I'm right and your're wrong - this is fun isn't it?
The whole point of my post is that you can't say what size bike someone should have only on the basis of their height. You need to look at what their leg, torso and arm measurements are; how flexible they are; how they're going to ride; how far they and fast they're going to ride. Otherwise ordering a custom bike would be as simple as telling the builder your height. Your 57/58 might fit you but it sure as fuck wouldn't fit me and I'm 6'4", so only a bit taller.
Btw, what does "because of the horizontal top tube they come up big" mean? If they had a sloping top tube then you should look at the effective top tube measurement (ie the equivalent horizontal top tube) when deciding which size you need.
Here are pictures of my two bikes. One's 64 c-t and one 60 c-t. Do you think either of these are too big for me?
Here's my Brooklyn Jack Crank's custom Witcomb - notice how little seatpost is showing. That's what a horizontal top tube bike shouild look like. You see quite a few fixed gears on the internet that are way too small for their owners.