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@hippy
400k and 4 punctures. That's reason enough to hate them. These aren't fscking race tyres or tubs designed for track racing! I've always stayed away from them on the advice of my LBS guy but must have bought these super cheap.
It's not just bad luck either.. I can see the pieces of glass go straight through the center of the tyre. Any other tyre the glass would've been knocked off next rotation.
Anyway, I put the old cut up Rubino and thin as fsck Hutchison back on and had no problem today, even though we had two other guys puncture.