Tony Malone - Old Kent Road Cycles - his new venture?

What has Tony actually done that Witcomb couldn't have done themselves?
He's ripped off other companies paint schemes and possibly influenced the biggest price hike in cycling history? - Allegedly

I fail to see how this is beneficial to either Witcomb as a company or the cycling industry as a whole.
At that price it's unlikely that most people would now be able to afford a witcomb, sure they get more money per frame but the rules of economics tend to be in favour of quantity shifted.
Hiking the prices that much will likely reduce their business quicker and cause a bigger rift in their cashflow than say a 10% increase in prices would have done.
What's going to fill the gap? Another price hike next week/month/year? I fail to understand the benefit for Witcomb.

Time may well prove me wrong but finance is something I do for a living. If I recommended this form of business plan to any of the Finance Directors/CEOs that I've worked for I'd be very quickly let go.

"Designers" should stick with art, not running other peoples businesses into the ground.

Object17 "Designers" should stick with art, not running other peoples businesses into the ground.

Ah. He's tried that, though,and he's a bit shit at it.

Allegedly.

His design abilities certainly aren't to my taste.

Somehow it's nicer to have the original rather than the piss poor imitation.
N.B. The final sentance of this is a comment about my view on life in general, not a view regarding Tony.

big daddy wayne RESONATES

I would just like to thank big daddy for adding some of my favorite genius's work here. Thank you. Was nice to have a reminder.

"This is your world" you know that...

quit putting a goddam dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet

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Yeah, sterling is way stronger! ££££££

Historical perspective

Tony Dafoney speaks

//from the witcomb site//
Cycling, fashion and the design of the bicycle
Tuesdays 7pm to 9pm, 10 places per course
An evening lecture on the design and fashion impact of the bicycle.
£30 per person

I
SHIT
YOU
NOT

big daddy wayne Tony Dafoney speaks

//from the witcomb site//
Cycling, fashion and the design of the bicycle
Tuesdays 7pm to 9pm, 10 places per course
An evening lecture on the design and fashion impact of the bicycle.
£30 per person

I
SHIT
YOU
NOT

I'm in:

1) Platini

Whatacunt.
will we get a certificate?

now if they did a frame building course

£30?

i teach children how to write and get on in the world and charge less than that. what bugs me the most about this type of thing is that it is indefensibly, morally BOGUS. a person can't look in the mirror and say, yeah, what i'm doing here is right, it's ok, i'm a good man - it doesn't work like that, and all the moral equivocation in the world won't change that. get a real fucking job and you'll miraculously find you stop having to defend yourself from passionate, genuine, heartfelt criticism, fuck you and your conspicuous consumption, your 'design-as-social-panacea'- - you're a LIAR.

"An evening lecture on the design and fashion impact of the bicycle"

if i was to put on a lecture series like this i'd worry as to whether *my *target audience would find the time to attend; they're all too busy complaining about the slightly-too-cold temperature of their latte or how the coffee-serf overly-toasted their placenta on pugliese bread; or avariciously scouring the property websites on a ubermac for buy-to-lets to make a quick buck; or moaning, interminably about the state of the world from their £500k apartment/mews house; or furiously cocksizing over their audi tts/condor barraccis, such is the pernicious and specious world of marketing and design and the cocks who believe in its calmative properties...

dicki now if they did a frame building course

Frame building course
Thursdays 7pm to 10pm, 6 places per course, 6 weeks
This course will provide you with a basic understanding of the craft of frame-building. Under the expert guidance of Barry Witcomb, you will be initiated to the various stages of the construction a bicycle. Your frame will then be enamelled and finished for you.
£1250 per person including frame materials and enamelling

you get yourself 'initiated' young master dicki?

interesting price... why not 1243.268?

i teach children how to write and get on in the world and charge less than that.

PJ, any chance of doing a mutual exchange and teaching dafoney how to read and write in exchange for his insights on bicycle fashion...

you will be initiated to the various stages of the construction a bicycle.

big daddy wayne quit putting a goddam dollar sign on every fucking thing on this planet[quote]

pj £30?

i teach children how to write and get on in the world and charge less than that. what bugs me the most about this type of thing is that it is indefensibly, morally BOGUS. a person can't look in the mirror and say, yeah, what i'm doing here is right, it's ok, i'm a good man - it doesn't work like that, and all the moral equivocation in the world won't change that. get a real fucking job and you'll miraculously find you stop having to defend yourself from passionate, genuine, heartfelt criticism, fuck you and your conspicuous consumption, your 'design-as-social-panacea'- - you're a LIAR.

"An evening lecture on the design and fashion impact of the bicycle"

if i was to put on a lecture series like this i'd worry as to whether *my *target audience would find the time to attend; they're all too busy complaining about the slightly-too-cold temperature of their latte or how the coffee-serf overly-toasted their placenta on pugliese bread; or avariciously scouring the property websites on a ubermac for buy-to-lets to make a quick buck; or moaning, interminably about the state of the world from their £500k apartment/mews house; or furiously cocksizing over their audi tts/condor barraccis, such is the pernicious and specious world of marketing and design and the cocks who believe in its calmative properties...
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Aha! The 'righteous indignation dollar' ... that's a biiig market right now ...

Devastating polemic, pj. It's started my monday morning in the specious world of My So Called Job with a bang.

pj £30?

i teach children how to write and get on in the world and charge less than that. what bugs me the most about this type of thing is that it is indefensibly, morally BOGUS. a person can't look in the mirror and say, yeah, what i'm doing here is right, it's ok, i'm a good man - it doesn't work like that, and all the moral equivocation in the world won't change that. get a real fucking job and you'll miraculously find you stop having to defend yourself from passionate, genuine, heartfelt criticism, fuck you and your conspicuous consumption, your 'design-as-social-panacea'- - you're a LIAR.

"An evening lecture on the design and fashion impact of the bicycle"

if i was to put on a lecture series like this i'd worry as to whether *my *target audience would find the time to attend; they're all too busy complaining about the slightly-too-cold temperature of their latte or how the coffee-serf overly-toasted their placenta on pugliese bread; or avariciously scouring the property websites on a ubermac for buy-to-lets to make a quick buck; or moaning, interminably about the state of the world from their £500k apartment/mews house; or furiously cocksizing over their audi tts/condor barraccis, such is the pernicious and specious world of marketing and design and the cocks who believe in its calmative properties...

pj for pm.

the second paragraph is a marvel. nails and heads ain't even in it.

big daddy wayne Tony Dafoney speaks

//from the witcomb site//
Cycling, fashion and the design of the bicycle
Tuesdays 7pm to 9pm, 10 places per course
An evening lecture on the design and fashion impact of the bicycle.
£30 per person

I
SHIT
YOU
NOT

I wanna sign up, cos i don't know shit about "cycling, fashion and the design of the bicycle" and I want to pay someone 30 sheets to tell me..but can't find the link..

ten of us need to sign up. sorted.

1250 for the frame building course...
funny how that's actually a reasonable price given that you take a "witcomb" frame away by the end of the day...

see objects rant

and dave yates is booked up all year.

but at least he isn't "one of them" eh!

I've heard that Terry O'whatsisface is "one of them" better watch out

How dare you, I never rant.
Wait, no, I was thinking of someone else, comment retracted. I always rant :}

This is the first I've heard of Witcomb's new marketing direction... it's a pity, I liked their old time-warp vibe. I nearly had a frame made last summer, but I was finding it impossible get them to find time to measure me up so I put it on hold. They didn't exactly seem short on business, the problem was they couldn't hold onto staff.

How big is the price hike, roughly?