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  • tome I don't get it. Are condor bikes especially heavy, should i look at getting an off the shelf bike? I was originally thinking of getting a lemand fillmore but thought a bike built to spec would be better

    A pista will be a chunk better than a filmore as you suspect. Chances are that a fimore will come as a complete bike. If you want to upgrade, you have to buy new parts - which means you are purchasing the lower spec bits that you don't want. On a Condor (or other built-to-spec bike) you pay the difference, so your overall spend is proportionally less.

    This thread has been a bit taken over with people teasing each other (for which I am partly responsible!) - just ignore them (us). A pista is a great bike, and even the detractors know this.

    (wind up mode)
    Oh, and there's loads of middle class people in Tooting as well.
    (/wind up mode)

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