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Whatever you do, don't order a 54cm. The Fuji Track fits bloody small. I'm 6' on the button and my 56cm is tiny for me. At least a 58cm if you're 5'11" - I would seriously consider a 60cm if I were to buy another.

Take advantage of an LBS and go test ride a few different sizes before you part with your cash.

Hi really Turpe?? I tried a 54 in the langster,which felt great,the next size up felt to high..I popped into a few shops and tried different bikes, seems i'm in between 54-56 depending on what company,i use to ride a 17 gary fisher mtb for what its worth..

I was reading the geo for the Fuji track, said the stand over size for the 54 is 788.3,the 56 is 807.4 and the 58 is 853.7(higher then my inside leg) ..I'm 5ft 11 & 31-32 inside leg, got a long torso..Have the size changed that much from 2007? I do prefer a smaller bike, but not to the point it looks like a clowns bike lol..
aj

i'm 6"2 and i had a 56, it was ok, slightly on the small side, but not like a child's bike or anything.

Hi the dealers just as the 54 left and not local,the Fuji site as the 54 as 5 ft 9 max..So i need a lbs with stock which isn't going to happen grrrrrrrrr looks like its sq 1,anyhow workkkkk cheers all
aj

I got a 54cm and I'm 5'10" with a 30" inside leg. It fits me quite well. It should be ok I guess with an inch taller but maybe best to try it out first. I'm not in London but if I was I'd let you try out the Fuji.

I've been going back and forth over a similar process of which bike. I only really want the frame and forks so would ebay all the components brand new on ebay. If you shop around and do the maths you could buy one of these complete bikes - and sell everything bar bar the f&f and build with handbuilt Formula/DT/Mavic wheels, Campag chainset, BB, brake, Nitto bars, decent name stem/post/seat/SPDs/kevlar tyres for a net price of around £500 ish

Has to be steel for me so I have been mainly looking at the Lemond Fillmore, Fuji Pista and Kona Paddy Wagon. Don't like the chrome Bianchi or any of the aluminium bikes (Langster etc).

Spent nights and nights and more nights scanning the net for info and last week had a sit on and close examination of the Fillmore and Paddy Wagon. No Fujis near me.

Thoughts are the Kona (£450) has the nicest quality of frame build - really good welds and overall finish. Very practical too as you can even squeeze in a 32 cross tyre I believe. The cro-mo is a name brand (Dedacci) but for some reason it builds real heavy, from 5 - 5.8 lbs frame weight which is ridiculous - more than the PG Charge Plug. Despite what some say there is not really much to choose in terms of these three in 'track' geometry - it differs between sizes but going by the sizes with roughly the same top tube length (around 54cm) the size 52 (54 tt) Fuji has head angle 72, seat 73.5. Size 53 (54.5 tt) Lemond has head 73, seat 73.5. Size 52 Kona (53.5 tt) has head 72.5, seat 74.5 Next sizes up in order are Fuji (54 seat, 55 tt) ) 73.5/73. Lemond (55, 56.5) 73.5/73. Kona (54, 55) (73/73.5

The Kona has a non traditional sloping top tube look which gives more standover of course. Lemond meaure centre to centre which means you need to add 2-3 cms to seat tube to compare size. Kona seat tube is 2 cm less the other way. ie, a 52 Fuji is actually 52, a 52 Lemond is actually 54 and a 52 Kona is actually 50.

Fuji is around £350, Kona and Fillmore both around £450.

Again, IMHO and looking closely the Kona has by far the best spec. Sealed Formula hubs, DT spokes and eyeletted semi-aero Sun rims. Decent tyres and nice dual pivot Tetro brakes - good basic bars/stem too.

Lemond build is much poorer value in comparison considering the same price, frame finish not so good for sure.

The 2008 Fuji has gone to Ahead at least but the wheels (judging by many comments) are still awful. It's cheaper though of course compared to the others.

Not sure of weight of Fuji complete, Kona is over 22lbs, Lemond is 18.5 to 20ish it seems depending on who is correct.

Really in terms of all round build and price I think the Kona is streets ahead but the weight...and stupid name. It is non traditional in look too if that is important.

Literally pages and pages of thoughts here on all these three bikes (you may have to join to view - takes a few seconds)

http://www.bikeforums.net/search.php?searchid=4741566

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Big pics of all three here:

Notice a pattern?! I think the graphics/paint designers all went to dinner together....

Hope this helps, I'm still undecided. Best bet would be a nice off the peg new track frame but they are all big money in comparison - Condor Pista etc. Or a secondhand road frame to convert but any really nice clean, decent ones are not cheap.

I am no fan of Evans really but remember if you are a LCC member (costs £30 to join) you get 10% or everything. Brings the Kona/Lemond down to £405.

fillmore is not value for money?! don't think so dude. the frame quality is much much better that the fuji.

Yes, but as an overall package I was not comparing to the Fuji just the Kona. The Fuji is in a different price bracket to the other two.

still very big call! will see when i check out this kona i'm getting

Yep, fair enough! Just my opinions though of course. :)

My favourite has always been the Fillmore but it is a great shame they have downgraded it so much to compete with the Langster/Paddy Wagon. It used to have a lovely True Temper frame set welded in the USA with carbon fork, lovely wheels etc. The sizing is a bit odd too. Personally Greg Lemond (along with Robert Millar) was my all time favourite tour rider so to ride a bike with his name would be... lol

All of them are still great bikes for the money - just a shame none are offered as frame only - simply not enough profit in that to make it worth while I guess.

max, dude arent you just over analysing things? will you be racing track/cross? are you like spending your last £500?

look at dogs...likes it buys it

i'm not the best example at buying things ralph!

Well the plot thickens,unknown to me theres a guy selling Dolan in Southampton,popped in this morning..He said i'm definitely a 54 (55 max) Tried a Dolan track bike which was 54 and it felt nice £475 full bike (minus the seat & pin as i have them)..So now its either the fuji,dolan or the parts for my frame which would run close to £250.

One other thing he was a great guy very helpful,took is time said he had a frame in each size, so no skin of his teeth if i wanted to go bigger..

I'm leaning towards the dolan what you think?
aj

nice bikes, heard of two frames braking recently. personally just a fancier langster which you can get a couple hundred cheaper.

fatboyralph max, dude arent you just over analysing things? will you be racing track/cross? are you like spending your last £500?

look at dogs...likes it buys it

Over analysing?

Absolutely 100%, me all over I am afraid!

I'm always down to my last £500 too...

look up user pj

He has a 56 cm Fuji to flog I think.

stompy look up user pj

He has a 56 cm Fuji to flog I think.

With no rear wheel mind. I was a little confused by the post

basically everything except rear wheel. but i may have changed my mind.

brakes too, but they might be extra, the 105 and goldfinger is like brand new.

i was thinking about keeping it or sticking it on ebay for financial reasons.

Hi Pj how tall are you?

Sorry for all the post, this as turned into more of a mind field then i was expecting...The bottom line! these are my options in Southampton (other then the fuji)

1)Specialized langster £399
3)Charge £400
4)Doyle complete bike with kadet frame £475
5)Kona paddy wagon £450
5)Fuji £270

and the wildcard Specialized Tricross Single £450

I now want to get up and cycling,but want the bike with the best frame,things eventually wear out and i can upgrade as i go along..I'm aware my threads changed slightly,but just want to get this right.So best frame of the bunch, thks and sorry for boring ur all aj

Specialized langster £399 unless you enjoy being a mong
Charge £400 unless you like riding a bike with wheels machined by massey-ferguson and weighs ten metric tonnes
and the wildcard Specialized Tricross Single £450 unless you plan on riding through the harbour on your way to work
Kona paddy wagon £450 unless you like riding a bike that looks plain WRONG and weighs 11 metric tonnes

i am 6"2, i got a 56 fuji, it's a tiny bit small. light and quick though, especially with new wheels. i love it.

the plain langster aint bad tho.
(i.e. non-london). Although, a debranded, white london one would be a great bike.
rides smooth

dogsballs nice bikes, heard of two frames braking recently. personally just a fancier langster which you can get a couple hundred cheaper.

the dolan has completely different geometry! they are very different

Langster is Aluminium
Charge is a heavy bastard
can't comment on the doyle
Kona is a hybrid frame
Fuji is a cheap beast

I'd buy the Fuji and buy some clipless pedals and shoes. Upgrade the tyres. Maybe change the saddle and gearing. Use the change from you're £400-£475 to trick it out.

eyebrows the plain langster aint bad tho.
(i.e. non-london).** Although a white london one would be a great bike**.
rides smooth

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