• cheers mate, yeah i'll get the most out of the tyres before I replace and i've got a box fresh 105 cheap from wiggle (came without instructions but was under 15 delivered. Can't grumble on that one). I've not really got the cash for the pair of cane creeks and wait to flog so I've seen a single for 12 which I'll grab tomorrow with a cable. So i reckon i'll wrack on a brake and fit my spd's and that'll be me on the road once again for the next year till I save the chedders for some other parts. I'll check out the rubinos.

    Many thanks again for your comments and i'll let you know how it goes.

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