• pip Actually the vice method works well. Wrap the cog in an old piece of chain and clamp it between some wooden blocks. Then just 'steer the bus' the right way and volia, hey presto!

    This is what most LBS's do (other common technique is a cheater bar over a chainwhip) to free stuborn cogs.

    Just make sure you steer the right way, otherwise you'll never get the cog off :)

    yeah that I can see would work but is very diffrent to nailing a chain to a peice of wood.

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