the-smiling-buddha I think it depends on the bike
you are not going to fit up tubs on any old beater
however for my mercian build I wanted 1970's race rims to go with my 1970's campagnolo record hubs so it had to be tubs
this of course has the added bonus of that I get to ride with a 'tub-bag' hanging from my seat which is just uber-cool
its going to be long distance bike so I'll just have to practice changing tubs
but it is not like they didn't used to do it in the old days
of course they like nice on kerin cycles too
Looks like a fight back from the tubs !