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they both work hippy, but one works better than the other and looks nicer.
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Have some of these
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My beef with the website and all the marketing was simply that it was patronising. It didn't remotely portray cycling as a genuine means of transport but as a whacky thing to do for a day, with crazy out-there names like Skid Squadron. Hey hey, get on a bike, kids! It should obviously be a family friendly day, and they are welcome to create silly little cartoons, but the whole thing seemed to suggest that cycling is best left to days when the roads are closed and we can all wear bibs.
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People don't just register on websites for the hell of it. They know what they are registering for. So if the registration places filled up, then it did the job intended.
So, it's not a gold, NJS-stamped website, it still has the info necessary, albeit readers just have to dig a little. If you're the type of person that wont drill down two pages to find a start time, you're hardly going to faff about with a bicycle.. you'll be jumping into your car and heading down to the cafe where they wont make your soy latte fast enough for you..
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ffub My beef with the website and all the marketing was simply that it was patronising. It didn't remotely portray cycling as a genuine means of transport but as a whacky thing to do for a day, with crazy out-there names like Skid Squadron. Hey hey, get on a bike, kids! It should obviously be a family friendly day, and they are welcome to create silly little cartoons, but the whole thing seemed to suggest that cycling is best left to days when the roads are closed and we can all wear bibs.
Then it's up to us to get those people that come out for a day.. to continue riding..
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hippy People don't just register on websites for the hell of it. They know what they are registering for. So if the registration places filled up, then it did the job intended.
So, it's not a gold, NJS-stamped website, it still has the info necessary, albeit readers just have to dig a little. If you're the type of person that wont drill down two pages to find a start time, you're hardly going to faff about with a bicycle.. you'll be jumping into your car and heading down to the cafe where they wont make your soy latte fast enough for you..
Yeah you're right, it is silly to expect cycling to be promoted to any higher standard that this.
I defer to your 'chilled out' better judgement.
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There is nothing in the information pack about what you need to show that you're registered to enter. They probably want you to wear the red cotton bib that was provided, but I'll just carry it in my bag. Maybe if you haven't registered, you might be able to get into the middle of a mass of riders from a hub going to the start point. Although I think that the barriers they use to close roads off will be jumpable with a bike.
My gf is unlikely to commute on a bike, but then she hardly rides as it is. I'm hoping that this will get her interest raised a bit more and she might start coming out on rides with me. It's a start.
Yes, I know that the whole tone of the event is to say - riding bikes in London is only safe on closed roads with bright coloured bibs. But some people might realise on their rides down to the hubs (ok, so some idiots will drive) that it isn't as bad as it seems. What would've really helped would've been a small leaflet with a few bits out of cyclecraft (Don't ride in the gutter!) included in the starter pack.
Anyway, a few spits of rain, and most people won't even turn up.
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stompy What would've really helped would've been a small leaflet with a few bits out of cyclecraft (Don't ride in the gutter!) included in the starter pack.
You obviously were not paying attention, there was this brilliant piece on road safety for beginners in the 'Etiquette & safety' section.
( http://www.londonfreewheel.com/bike/hit_road.asp )
When did everyone get their starter packs, I registered months ago and have not got mine yet.
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Did you confirm your sign up? I have no idea why this was necessary but once you registered on the site, you received an email with an html link that confirmed your sign up.
Although it seems to have worked for thousands of others, I failed to see this an didn't confirm until Monday 10/9...I registered on 25 July. Remains to be seen whether they'll send me a pack.
In the words of RPM "give a fuck? nope."
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JimmyP Did you confirm your sign up? I have no idea why this was necessary but once you registered on the site, you received an email with an html link that confirmed your sign up.
Yeah, did all that.
I am going to dig a tunnel just like at Glastonbury.
[sound of water leaking into the tunnel] - 'does anyone know which way the Thames is ?'
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*hippy:
People don't just register on websites for the hell of it. They know what they are registering for. So if the registration places filled up, then it did the job intended.
So, it's not a gold, NJS-stamped website, it still has the info necessary, albeit readers just have to dig a little. If you're the type of person that wont drill down two pages to find a start time, you're hardly going to faff about with a bicycle.. you'll be jumping into your car and heading down to the cafe where they wont make your soy latte fast enough for you..
Yeah you're right, it is silly to expect cycling to be promoted to any higher standard that this.
I defer to your 'chilled out' better judgement.
*i f**in don't -
I think the event was filled in spite of the website rather than because of the website,
and then a litany of 'what we supposed to be doing then' which seems to show that their strategic thinking spread further than the website and went to the collateral literature
it bugs me in the same way bad welds on a bike bugs me
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Look out! Angry designers..
I found it quite funny, my girlfriend did and registered herself and sent it to me. My mates registered. My workmate registered his whole family. None of them complained about the website. Registration is full.
I'm sticking with my opinion that the site worked as intended. You can QuarkXpress me to death when you next see me..
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hippy Look out! Angry designers..
angry, nope
passionate about what I think considered and crafted design can do, most definitely
if no-one challenges sloppy coding, bad husbandry, messy welding etc then you are just left with a make-do mentality and I care about pushing forward, exploring and finding new and more effective ways of communicating.
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Yeah you're right, it is silly to expect cycling to be promoted to any higher standard that this.I defer to your 'chilled out' better judgement.
wayne_f14 i f**in don't -
I was being sarcastic.
I think my opinion about the website is valid and hippy's opinion is a mixture of ad hominem and equivocation.
You know the kind of thing:
A: "this bike looks shit and the back wheel needs pumping up every 2 hours, I am pretty sure we can do better"
B: "shut up you angry idiot, it works doesn't it, and they are nearly all sold"
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The argument is not about filling places, you could sell Glastonbury out in an hour and then stick some shit bands on and move the location to a secret cave and tell nobody where it is or when it starts, should we still declare 'victory', still shout 'game over man, we sold all the tickets' ?
The uptake simply show the popularity of cycling not how well the website imparts information.
Who knows it might have been 10 times larger, maybe they could have closed the whole of central London off to traffic - that would be great even if it was just the one day a year.