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hmm... sounds a bit too complicated then for me. i want something i can ride -soon- without an insane amount of work. i'm still new to building things up so i don't want to start a project that will put me in over my head. maybe i'll go and have a look at somethings already built up as mentioned. any other strong recommendations for frames i should keep an eye out for on ebay/gumtree?