Reynolds Tubing 631 vs 853

Am looking at picking up a Bob Jackson and am interested in the difference you would get from Reynolds 631 vs 853 tubing (all things being equal). Not sure if it would make it a better bike or simply turn it into a rigid bone shaker. Any feedback gratefully received

Cheers

http://www.reynoldscycles.co.uk

http://www.strongframes.com/material_tech/specs/

http://www.peytocycles.com/reynolds-steel-bicycle-tubing/

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/frame-materials.html#ride

thanks

On the subject in general. Some of it obvious, some of it quite interesting.
http://www.bretonbikes.com/stee.htm

Pretty much depends on what you'd use the bike for. Your best bet is to ask the framebuilder themselves what they'd recommend. FWIW, I have a 631 frame I built on Dave Yates's course (his recommended tubeset for my "comfy non-racing road bike" spec) and certainly don't go around in tears that it's not stiffer or lighter. No doubt I might feel differently if I were doing crits on it or something.

Hi both are excellent tubesets, but if you can afford the 853 buy that, I personally think that 853 is possibly the best frame material ever made. It is very very strong yet still comfortable it isn't the lightest tubing but if I wanted a bike to last for ever at a reasonable price I would chose 853. It's so durable you can use it for all riding styles touring, racing mtb the lot! In fact I recently did my 853 single speed mtb is 853 pro (pro very slightly lighter)

20th August 2007

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LOL never noticed that!

What a waste of typing that was, and I'm compounding the issue writing this DOH!!!!!

Still helpful, Rourkie! I really, really want an 853 in the stable.

I forgot I've got a bmx frame made of 853 in the garage - absolute keeper! The only frame I've gone back to after buying a replacement. I remember riding an amazing saracen killi (sub 5lb mtb frame) in 1997. I've got a standard 631 vigorelli, its very nice, 853's always a bit special though.

This was a really nice frame that came up a while ago: http://static.lfgss.com/attachments/4172d1230848359-dsc_0038.jpg

does the 531 backlash start here?
the first "wanted 853 frame" ad will appear soon.
hipsters are so fickle.