LeveL Hubs?

I was looking at the level hubs and wonder if anyone has riden them or has an opinion?

http://www.levelcomponents.com/

My opinion (shuddup - you knew it was coming) is thus:

I don't like an idea so proprietory, ie. if LEVEL goes bust, where do you get cogs from?

On the other hand, they are kinda cool. :)

i talked to will at hubjub about these, i was thinking about getting some,
and i too had the same worries

will assured me that if level ever go bust they will hand out the CNC patterns so someone else can make them
allthough that would cost a lot more,

i dont think they will go bust anytime soon , everything i have heard about the hubs tells me they are 1st class

plus they look like raw sex

They also have a 45mm chainline, which puts me straight off.

I think the front hubs are pretty decent. Keep meaning to pick one up.

But like most folks, I'm not a huge fan of using a proprietary cog system on the rears - its just too limiting - and once I learned how to install a cog properly, I've haven't stripped the threads on a hub, so it doesn't solve any problems for me.

[now I've jinxed myself]

I too was worried about the proprietory nature of the product, having delt with many such oddities in the past (i hate french threaded bottom brackets), but all the reading i have done makes it look like level can only get bigger and, that they have a well though-out contingency plan in such case that they go bust. they are beautiful, I am still not sure that they are the logical choice over phil wood- tried and true.

I think they are a bit overbuilt (massive and heavy) for road use, but would be great for fixed mtn bike use. I think that the proprietary system is a pain - sure Level will hand out the patterns but why would anyone spend time machining cogs when Level couldn't make a business out of it?

just buy a MTB disc front hub and drill an old cog on, whoala!!

I had a pair of these on my off-road fixie:

On-One Inbred

They were gorgeous, but let down by a lack of support - they had been promising a freewheel for their proprietory cog fixing, but it never materialised...

Without the option of singlespeed, I decided that riding fixie off-road was for someone with bigger nadgers than me so I sold them on.

Don't Londonfixiebike make them for their Shimano conversion hubs?

yes but they take a 6 hole cog for fitting onto standard disk hubs

But if they're six holes evenly spaced they should fit to a hub which has three holes evenly spaced...no? Someone should inspect this!!

Actually what am I talking about...apologies for lack of thought in last post

this is true...

...Or would it...someone else reply quick...I'm rambling...

It would wouldn't it...

Different BCD.

That's all you need to know.

Just by ten cogs with the hub.
You can sell them later if the company goes bust.

At 24.50 a go that's a fair chunk of coinage.

He can corner the market later though.

Only if Level go bust.

LeveL seem safe enough no?

So did the Cain's brewary.

Right...I'll take that as point in hand as I've no idea what you're talking about..anyonoe know what's happening with Gan Well Pro since Kazushi Doi died?? Similar topic or shall I just start a new thread?

Level are about to announce huge sub-prime losses. Get those cogs before the news breaks.