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That reminds me, thanks for the offer david, I'm sure i'll take you up on it soon! Great, sounds like I'm halfway through a good night already! I should fall off my bike more regularly!
By the way hovis this doesn't mean i won't be needing your wheel building rig at some point next academic year.. am dismantling/selling bits of the white raleigh to put on/buy bits for my frame i bought.