This may interest some of you (Cycle Heros article)

ffub Why does it bother drivers so much that cyclists jump red lights? Envy? I don't really get it. If a cyclist jumps the red light how does that negatively affect you? I'm genuinely asking.

The car that's coming the other way that has to slam on the brakes..

Yes, yes, it's not you that blindly rides through reds but fscking hell have I seen some close calls out there. Usually from Halfords specials types..

Sh1t.. have I just contributed to turning this forum into a RLJ thread like C+. Now you see why we need delete :)