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Glucosamine is really good for tendons and joints as well.

nuts, fish, cod liver tables, yoga are all good for your joints

But joints aren't good for your nuts..

veto, flat bars, 75.2" or 73.8" gear, depending on what's available when I place my replacement transmission internet order....you can't go much faster than 75" will allow on London streets anyway, I could always keep up with the geared riders training round Regent's Park and it's just low enough to get up most hills....I used to live in Muswell Hill and could absolutely bomb up the hill from archway to Highgate tube if I'd get a good run up!......if you wanna do well at the track, riding / training on a high gear will hinder you....watch any bunch track race and in the finish the winners are twiddling like loonies...you won't get that fluidity from riding big gears..

Winston, what would you recommend for HH?
whatever the old loan bike I used up there had on, it felt a bit too spinny for me. I appreciate you need to learn to spin faster, but it was crazy. I don't run massive gearing on the road, just 73 or 69.

when i did hh yesterday, they reckoned their bikes were running 88.....felt much lower tho...or maybe thats just cos i'm not used to tracK??

You only need a hotel if you sleep. And we all know sleep is for the weak :}

for adult males of reasonable fitness:

81 for novice sessions
85 for training or really windy track leaugues
88-90.6 for track league racing, indoor tracks and derny training
92.8 for Good Friday or major indoor competitions and keirins
97+ for derny racing

88 may seem low in the sprints, but you get used to it and your pedal speed will get better, if your gear is too high you won't be able to accelerate to follow attacks and you'll legs will fatigue much earlier...

eggpie Before anyone asks, its open to m***ers, fers, ex-m*rs, non-f***ers, ex-f**ers, etc, in fact, just about anyone who has a bike, £20 and wants to race on the road, track and/or rollers.

Do i get a discount for being a certified fakenger?

I never been a courier in my whole life but i have a courier bag from a London courier company... ;)

That's true fakengerism! Respect the Roberto! bows :)

where's my t-shirt and stuff then eggpie?

winston veto, flat bars, 75.2" or 73.8" gear...
I used to live in Muswell Hill and could absolutely bomb up the hill from archway to Highgate tube if I'd get a good run up!......

What!?! On a 75" gear! Holy Chapeaux Batman!

NOT "Muswell Hill"!!!!......the long hill between Archway tube and Highgate tube....main road dual carriageway for first bit, then flat then kicks up again...is it the A10, A1????dunno...anyway that one NOT the steep one.

Hell I can bomb up that suicide bridge/Archway rd hill on my 97". It most definitely IS NOT the steep ones, Highgate West Hill and Highgate Hill.

I need to see these hills.. come on Colapaluza #2!!!!

I used it as end of day training, after a day on circuit I would always go flat out up there....in two years I only got passed twice...A Finsbury Park roadie and a whippet-skinny mountain biker.....never worked out how far it is from tube to tube....at least 1k I reckon....so may not be the steepest but possibly the longest climb in London?

1.6k (1mi)
http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?f=d&hl=en&geocode=&saddr=archway+station&daddr=highgate+station&sll=51.526294,-0.064044&sspn=0.081702,0.22934&ie=UTF8&z=15&om=1

hooooray! how about vertical ascent then? techie!

I don't know if this will work coz I had to login to calc the altitude:
http://maps.google.com/maps/mm?ie=UTF8&hl=en&ll=51.573069,-0.142436&spn=0.020138,0.057335&z=15&om=1

It's 63m climbing to 110m according to the altitude profiler. No idea of this tool's accuracy. I can ride it with my HRM and let you know (it measures altitude)

winston NOT "Muswell Hill"!!!!......the long hill between Archway tube and Highgate tube....main road dual carriageway for first bit, then flat then kicks up again...is it the A10, A1????dunno...anyway that one NOT the steep one.

Oh, my mistake. In that case... whatever ;-)

winston I used it as end of day training, after a day on circuit I would always go flat out up there....in two years I only got passed twice...A Finsbury Park roadie and a whippet-skinny mountain biker.....never worked out how far it is from tube to tube....at least 1k I reckon....so may not be the steepest but possibly the longest climb in London?

I reckon some of the ones round the back of Hampstead Garden Suburb are longer. I used Winnington Road for steady state stuff and Swains Lane for pyramids. Swains Lane is the proper hill. Properly steep and everything. Not this lightweight West Hill nonsense that the young ones think is a real hill. Huh!

Oh, and it's called Archway Road.

Archway Road....that's a tough one to remember....

agreed on Swain's Lane.

Another good hill, Aidan will know this. Good little sprint, it gived you a nice flat to get a run up, then gets steeper, and steeper...

Pyramids?
Training terminology?

Ja. See: http://www.abcc.co.uk/Articles/wright1.html
Although there tends to be variations depending on what your coach learnt or what you read.
Actually this is better: http://boakes.org/pyramid-training/

Its intervals but not of the same duration.
e.g. So you do a 10sec int, rest, 20 sec int., rest, 30 sec int., rest, 20 sec int., rest, 10 sec int, rest.

I'm looking at some of the other links and weight training has a different definition for them again. They change weights and reps between sets, whereas when I did them on a mag trainer or the track it was just time that altered, you do longer intervals with the same recovery time. E1, E2, E3, oh it's starting to come back to me now.. :)