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Thanks tommo, i reckon that guy bought the complete bike from surly direct. £300 isnt bad... but i need a full bike for that price, not just the frame. on the plus side i have (possibly) a frame for £50, so in theory i have £250 - 300 for everything else minus frame, forks, bb and seatpost. If everything on the frame works. which i very much doubt.