Sidi shoes

i'm thinking of getting a pair of sidis over the net, any of you knows how they fit?
My foot size's 43 1/2 i use shimano at the moment and they're 44, should i stick to 44 or go a size bigger?

Oh man there's nothing better than italian-made shoes, Sidis fits like a glove and are worth every pence - don't go for the cheaper options, save a bit more and get the Dominators or similar model.

About the same, suggest you go to a shop and ask to try a pair of Sidis, so you could make sure which size you need...

One thing i like about Sidis is that they looks allright even like being used for one year... they always looks kind of nice and new.

are genius 5 any good?
or should i get some mtb shoes so i can walk in 'em better?

They are but won't recommend use road shoes with MTB cleats on streets - get MTB shoes instead

Definitely try them if you can. My feet are 42.5, I take 43 shoes (and my Nike cycling shoes are 43) but 44 Sidi. I think they also do half sizes.

If you have a spare £60 go to Cyclefit for some insoles, really worth it.

I use Genius 5s - fantastic shoes. I fit the Shimano MTB cleats that come with lil plastic strips that fit either side of the cleat and let you walk no probs.

I had 44 Shimano shoes before - bit tight but OK. Went for 45 Sidis and theyre the comfiest shoes ever.

yup i tried a pair of sidi t'day ,45's the magic number.Are you saying that i'd be able to walk with no tip-tap effect in road shoes if i use atac cleats?

If you use road shoes with ATACs the put aside a shit load of money for new cleats. ATAC cleats are brass (so that they wear out rather than the pedal) and so will wear out incredibly fast if yothey aren't recessed (ie mtn bike shoes). They cost £15 a pair so it will get expensive. Plus you will be tip tapping all over the place.

Atac cleats on road shoes... you wouldn't be able to walk. Genius 5's are smooth plastic undersoles, and the cleats would have nothing to grip the floor. You'd spend all your time arse over tit.

It's either Atacs on MTB shoes like the Sidi Dominator or Dragon.
Or it's Time RXS with road cleats on road shoes (they have a triangular platform around the cleat... you can walk, but it's clippety clop).

dominator or dragon will be, where can i grab a bargain?

I am normally a perfect size 42, but both my Sidi's are 43 and fit like a glove.

If you're not sure, go try a pair for size before hitting the 'bay!

on the subject of sidi i did some research and defunked the cow based glue rumor, they just emailed me the type of glue used in the shoes, and its vegan... now all i need is cash for hte sticker price (donations accepted)

I'll give you an old pair of socks.. :P

ill say they are michel jackson and seel them on ebay for enough to buy me some sidis.

Think outside the square.. I like! :D

gold old cleberty cluture... funding my stupid bike realted consumerism

The replaceable soles on the dragons are meant to wear out pretty fast and are quite expensive to replace.

yeah, went to cyclefit yesterday and decided to invest in custom soles rather than a flashy pair of shoes, i was gonna get Dominators but they didnt have my size so i got Bullets instead the dude said it's basically the same shoe but without the buckle which most people tend to over-use anywhay.
I didnt realize that i would ever need an appointment to get a pair of1's&2's but they surely know theyr stuff, get your asses in THAT shop if you ever wanna buy cycling shoes.

Heh, finally someone sees why I love that place.

You going back there? Speak to Kimbers at the desk, and ask to see her track frame. It's upstairs but she will have to show you as it's a store room. The frame is jaw-dropping.

Dave did you see that showframe they have hanging in the shop?????????
Polished engraved steel, if it was a ss or track frame i would have taken a loan out!!

i got an old pair of sidi fire or something the ones with the ratchet on top, had them 7 years, lasting well, soles ok, and yeah they come up one size smaller.

I've been contemplating a fitting there (actually a fitting anywhere..) I've DIY'd it for years and wonder what they can do for me.
Now that I'm too tight to pay UK RRP prices for roadie kit and buy stuff off ebay, etc. I've done myself a disservice with the Ribble fit (the old: read wrong column, toptube too long problem).

How do you rate their fitting?
Are you actually comfortable over long distance stuff?
Any racers out there feel more powerful, better handling?

Do they provide a full set of measurements that could be used to 1) tweak existing bike 2) tweak new off the shelf bike 3) build full custom frame?

Do they do the hard-sell like Kennedy in Melbourne and push their own bikes/components at you?

Yeah. It was made for the London Cycle Show last Autumn.

The real porn are the Serotta's and the Colnago's. They can build bikes however you want them, if you are taken by the idea of a carbon lugged fully custom track bike with titanium track ends and italian threaded BB... they can do it. Providing you have the money you can just make the stuff up as you go along and it will be done.

It's a dangerous shop to go into with a credit card.

And anything not on display can be ordered. Because everything is custom, it's more a show room than a shop.

And the staff... wowser. Every one is a racer or avid cyclist. And Warrick is pure intimidation Elite category rider. Approachable, cool, but you look at his history and realise that he will still answer the dumb questions you ask and help you as much as possible to get everything perfect.

The place is awesome. But expensive.

hippy I've been contemplating a fitting there (actually a fitting anywhere..) I've DIY'd it for years and wonder what they can do for me.
Now that I'm too tight to pay UK RRP prices for roadie kit and buy stuff off ebay, etc. I've done myself a disservice with the Ribble fit (the old: read wrong column, toptube too long problem).

How do you rate their fitting?
Are you actually comfortable over long distance stuff?
Any racers out there feel more powerful, better handling?

Do they provide a full set of measurements that could be used to 1) tweak existing bike 2) tweak new off the shelf bike 3) build full custom frame?

Do they do the hard-sell like Kennedy in Melbourne and push their own bikes/components at you?

The fitting was the first thing I ever had done there.

I didn't know what to expect, but my Cannondale CAAD8 that I was riding at the time was making an old nagging lower back pain problem come back stronger than ever.

It took a couple of hours, with them continually tweaking a size-cycle (custom fitting machine), watching your motions, video taping and playing back the movements of each joint, using a laser to track float at the knees, swapping bars and saddles to improve comfort, handling.

All of this is done to how you say you want to ride. The fitting will work towards a position as close to perfect as possible for how you ride. So your fitting will be different from mine, what you want to gain will be different from me.

At the end of the fitting, they walked me through a few stretches and techniques to help reduce the back pain further. How to engage the glutes during long gentle climbs, negative-spine position to prevent load bearing on a few joints, a few stretches to encourage other muscles to participate in the pedal stroke.

Then the choice is yours. They will email you an Excel spreadsheet containing the measurements you need to make any bike roughly your size match your fitting. But you can choose to leave your bike there, and pay for a very small service in which they dial-in the bike to your fitting.

For me this meant changing the stem, the saddle, the angle of the bars, and a few shims under the cleats of the shoes (different amount each side).

The difference was so extraordinary that my usual 70 mile ride that I was doing went from being mildly discomforting and tiring, to effortless. I felt fresh at the end of it. Knackered yes, it wasn't a cure for having to cycle, but there wasn't a bit of me that had pain or discomfort.

A little later I began wondering. If a fitting could do that to a bike that was stock... what would kind of bike could be produced if the bike were custom and matched the fitting.

That thought was what gave birth to my Serotta. And the thing is awesome. 120 miles isn't a problem at all, I'm still fresh at the end of it. I no longer hurt. My back pain is pretty much under control (gone for now it seems). My shoulders no longer burn after long distances. I have incredible control even at 40mph to 50mph on winding descents.

I made a mistake on my Bob Jackson. I provided the Cycle Fit numbers without taking into account the raised BB. So whilst the Jackson is absolutely perfect when I'm riding, it's a bit freaking high up for stops, starts, feet down.

The numbers they give you wipe out years of expensive experimenting (trying lots of different parts, tweaking everything). Whether you take advantage of that knowledge is down to you.

Oh, and if you have a fitting. Be honest about how you cycle.

You gain nothing if you try the bravado game of claiming to ride hard crits every 2 days... if really you just like rolling countryside and clocking up miles and urban riding.

You'll only get out what you put in, but their skill and experience will impress you, and the outcome will be worth the money.

The way I view it today... if a bike isn't perfect for you, the expensive solution is to get a new bike, the cheap solution is to get a bike fitting.