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I only have one of the shit freestyle red items. I could never find a P Izumi to fit me. Those were nice.
But really Dickies! It's poor quality work-wear made for cents in maquiladores - rubbish. A guy called Blake from Philly was buying up thrift store no-brand poly-cotton pants and selling them for $15. I could see the sense in that.
There's an SF based brand called Ben, Ben... can't remember, but its logo is a gorilla.